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To: xzins

Easiest way to disprove the’gay gene’ theory:
Identical twins.
If one is gay and the other not, it is therefore not genetic, but a lifestyle choice.


42 posted on 10/17/2015 3:40:18 PM PDT by mkleesma (`Call to me, and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.')
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Then there’s the fact that the same people that believe that evolutionary science is settled, somehow want to ALSO believe that a gay gene could survive and propagate throughout the species with no means of reproduction.

Now one could say that it could exist but it is so hard to find. If that is the case, evolution tells us that being so ‘hard to find’ means nature has in fact selected it for extinction because it is unfit.

There is nothing but apology, agenda, bad science and propaganda behind the gay gene/born that way issue. It’s behavorial at it’s core. People acting on self harming behaviors are mentally ill.


47 posted on 10/17/2015 3:51:18 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: mkleesma; xzins
The take-home fact from t he article, though, was that the choices aren't binary, tat is, not just

There's also this third matter of epigenetic tags (which they provides them with a 70% accurate way to predict who will be gay or straight). And maybe other unchosen environmental factors, too, besides epigenetic tags. Several have mentioned being sexually abused as a child or a youth.

These may result in lifelong, persistent, fairly unchanging attraction and arousal patterns which are highly resistant to modification.

The only moral solution to the person so affected, is to "avoid sin, and the near occasions of sin." In other words, don't DO IT and don't subject yourself to the people, places, situations or thought/fantasy patterns that would easily lead you into DOING IT.

Which is exactly what "straight" people have to do, too, to avoid sexual sin.

100 posted on 10/17/2015 5:21:05 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Still Catholic after all these years.)
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To: mkleesma
How about this... I know two fraternal twin brothers. Both gay as the day is long. Fraternal, not identical twins. Personally, I think it has to do with a) predisposition; and b) hormone availability during the first trimester.

I once saw a study done about births in Germany between 1940-1945 and how there was a larger than usual number of children born during those years who went on to become gay adults. They were considering whether stress was a factor on hormonal production of the mothers.

Then also consider the number of women taking birth control he past 50 years, who then suddenly stop and become pregnant with their hormones all out of whack. Sure, they have enough balance to get pregnant, but to be able to bathe the child's brain with necessary hormones during first trimester to produce a normally functioning brain? Plastic contaminants in food containers, etc., also affect hormone regulation in the body, as well as antibiotics, chemicals in food, and prescription drugs in the public water supply.

Just my theory. I would love to ask Dr. carson's opinion.

126 posted on 10/17/2015 6:44:17 PM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven.)
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