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There is No Evidence of a Gay Gene, According to New Study
Young Conservatives ^ | October 17, 2015 | John S. Roberts

Posted on 10/17/2015 2:48:31 PM PDT by xzins

This is going to make the LGBT crowd very unhappy (even though they knew this was the case from the start)…

From Daily Wire:

An unpublished UCLA study challenging the societal “born this way” dogma of homosexuality has already been gaining traction in the public media since its presentation at an annual scientific conference last week.

The twin study conducted at the David Geffen School of Medicine at the University of California, Los Angeles, finds that homosexuality may be triggered by environmental factors after birth. The research uses an algorithm covering epigenetic markers from several genomic sites of 37 sets of identical male twins to predict homosexuality in males, with 70 percent accuracy, as presented at the American Society of Human Genetics 2015 Annual Meeting in Baltimore.

“The finding is highly controversial because it suggests that some men are not born gay, but are turned homosexual by their surroundings,” Sarah Knapton of Telegraph suggested.

Wait a tick…

Does that mean that kids raised by gay parents or who have been unfortunately abused are more prone to becoming gay?

You don’t say?

I feel like conservatives have been saying this for years!

Does this prove beyond all reasonable doubt that gay people choose to be gay?

Yeah, it really does. And more likely than not, there will never be evidence of a gay gene (unless studies are highly falsified like they are with climate change analysis).

As we’ve known since the beginning of time, a baby boy or girl does not develop in the womb with a gene that tells them to be attracted to the opposite sex.

Why liberals still push the lie that people are “born this way” makes little sense, but because so many Americans are uninformed on the issues, they go along with whatever Hollywood celebrities and the mainstream media tell them to.

Sad.

Don’t even get me started on “transgender” BS.

Everything in life is a choice, people.


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To: srmorton

“In order for a gene to persist in the population, it must be passed on to the offspring. If not, the gene will die out.”


Duchenne muscular dystrophy, Tay-Sachs disease, and (until recently) cystic fibrosis, all inherited diseases, normally kill their victims before sexual maturity—or render them so incapacitated that reproduction is unthinkable — and yet they’ve persisted for millennia.


121 posted on 10/17/2015 6:28:23 PM PDT by gtx960
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To: Norm Lenhart
Then there’s the fact that the same people that believe that evolutionary science is settled, somehow want to ALSO believe that a gay gene could survive and propagate throughout the species with no means of reproduction.

From the same people who support the murder of a child but oppose the execution of a murderer.

122 posted on 10/17/2015 6:28:45 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Funny how the liberal mind works. Well perhaps ‘mind’ isn’t the proper term. “Funny how the liberal agenda works. Because there is no mind in the traditional sense. There is a program. Or more often, a progrom.


123 posted on 10/17/2015 6:33:26 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: MulberryDraw
Come on now, behaviors are choices one indulges in, lol; some are weak, some have self control.
124 posted on 10/17/2015 6:39:20 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I think the behavior defines the attitude in these things, so I would guess the behavior has ALREADY occurred.


125 posted on 10/17/2015 6:41:07 PM PDT by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: mkleesma
How about this... I know two fraternal twin brothers. Both gay as the day is long. Fraternal, not identical twins. Personally, I think it has to do with a) predisposition; and b) hormone availability during the first trimester.

I once saw a study done about births in Germany between 1940-1945 and how there was a larger than usual number of children born during those years who went on to become gay adults. They were considering whether stress was a factor on hormonal production of the mothers.

Then also consider the number of women taking birth control he past 50 years, who then suddenly stop and become pregnant with their hormones all out of whack. Sure, they have enough balance to get pregnant, but to be able to bathe the child's brain with necessary hormones during first trimester to produce a normally functioning brain? Plastic contaminants in food containers, etc., also affect hormone regulation in the body, as well as antibiotics, chemicals in food, and prescription drugs in the public water supply.

Just my theory. I would love to ask Dr. carson's opinion.

126 posted on 10/17/2015 6:44:17 PM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven.)
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To: arbitrary.squid
"I am sure that that 90% is having more anal sex than the 10% of homosexuals are."

Of the 90%, how many are in a monogamous relatrionbship? You throw out stats like a monkey flinging feces. Why don't you give us the stat for the average partner a homosexual male has compared to a female in a given year? Also, don't bring your anecdotal crap like "my brother this and my brother that" concerned trolls like yourself spew. Provide documentation please.
127 posted on 10/17/2015 6:45:36 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: xzins

Well, all I am saying is that if someone thinks:

1) People choose to have SSA, and

2) That the immorality of same-sex sex acts stems from the “fact” that people choose to have SSA,

then that person is way off-base.

People with SSA know that they did not choose to have SSA. Therefore, if they are given the impression that “Christian morality” is based on the belief that they DID choose to have SSA, they will rightly reject “Christian morality” as foolish and counter-factual.

All sexual activity, except between husband and wife, in acts that are in themselves apt for the transmission of life, are sinful. That is the REAL kernel of Christian teaching on sexual morality. What individual people are attracted to, or tempted by, is an entirely distinct matter.

Authentic Christian sexual morality has absolutely nothing to do with theories about HOW people come to be attracted to acts other than licit sexual acts between husband and wife.


128 posted on 10/17/2015 6:46:40 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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To: arbitrary.squid
relatrionbship = relationship, lol, botched that word to hades
129 posted on 10/17/2015 6:46:57 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

And I’m saying nothing about anything except the interplay between behavior and attitudes. In this instance, I believe the behavior precedes the attitude.


130 posted on 10/17/2015 6:50:02 PM PDT by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

Homosexuality is not genetic. Homosexuality is a congenital birth defect that has been eliminated in livestock and can be eliminated in humans as well. If a mother supplements with a full spectrum of major and trace minerals, they have a much better chance of not having homosexual children.


131 posted on 10/17/2015 6:50:34 PM PDT by Crucial (At the heart all leftists is the fear that the truth is bigger than themselves.)
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To: Crucial

I’ll have to think about that one.


132 posted on 10/17/2015 6:52:26 PM PDT by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: gtx960
Tay-Sachs and CF are both autosomal recessive genes that require two copies for the condition to be expressed. Carriers can pass the disease on to their offspring if they marry another carrier. Tay-Sachs is still fatal in childhood, but the treatment and management of CF is now advanced to the point that many patients are surviving to adulthood and are able to marry and have children of their own. Duchenne MD is usually sex-linked (which is why it is more common in males), but there are cases where it occurs in families with no genetic history of the disease so it is a little more complicated.

The LGBT community would like there to be a biological basis for what in most cases is a choice or a result of their life experiences. With what I know about genetics and evolution, the possibility of "gayness" being attributed to genetics alone has never made any sense to me.

133 posted on 10/17/2015 6:52:37 PM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: petenmi

Lol those “jeans” definitely have something gay going on.


134 posted on 10/17/2015 6:55:22 PM PDT by fivecatsandadog ( What strategy? Tell me what your strategy is and I'll tell you if its working". P. Quinn, Homeland)
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To: xzins
I know you are generally a sensible person, xzins (at least, in my opinion!) but I don't know why you would say that in people who experience SSA, "behavior" (do you mean sodomy?) has already occurred.

I think a pastor, teacher, or parent, for instance, would have have grounds to wonder whether a kid who "come out" as gay (SSA) at 12 were molested somewhere along the line... But I don't think it's necessarily the case.

I am no expert, but from what I read, a not-insignificant number of young people experience SSA in early adolescence, don't "do" anything that crosses a line, and their feelings eventually mature into natural man-woman desires by their 20's.

135 posted on 10/17/2015 6:59:26 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Still Catholic after all these years.)
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To: xzins

It’s nature’s way of thinning the herd when the land can’t sustain an overpopulated community. Farmers only return 3 minerals to their crops when they plant but all other minerals become depleted after a few generations. This was discovered in the seventies by the Feds.


136 posted on 10/17/2015 7:00:55 PM PDT by Crucial (At the heart all leftists is the fear that the truth is bigger than themselves.)
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To: xzins

If that’s what you believe, then you will never get a hearing from people with SSA, because their personal experience contradicts your belief.

It is true that many, many “gay” people were sexually abused in some way as children, but most experienced attraction to the same sex before the abuse occurred, and even before puberty.

If people are to be persuaded that authentic Christian sexual morality is the way to go, confronting them with theories that contradict their personal experience is a doomed approach.


137 posted on 10/17/2015 7:09:29 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“I have known a couple relatively small lumberjacks.”

Interestingly to me there was a documentary on the “old time” lumberjacks on TV which I have watched twice. This was about the guys who cut the really big timber back before the day of the chain saw. According to the report the “Paul Bunyan” type guy was very rare! They said there was occasionally someone who was six three and two thirty or bigger but most were around five seven and a hundred and fifty five pounds but these guys consumed on average SEVEN THOUSAND OR MORE CALORIES PER DAY. Sunday was their only day off and they sometimes would fight on Sunday to burn off their “excess energy”. I can tell anyone from experience on the farm growing up that if you spend the day swinging an axe and or pulling one end of a two man saw you WILL consume huge amounts of food or starve. I could easily eat as much in one meal then as I eat all day now.


138 posted on 10/17/2015 7:12:39 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Norm Lenhart
I think that throughout history, most of the individuals who would now call themselves "gay", did not have such a label available, but did experience these disordered appetites. My impression is that most of them did find opposite-sex spouses and did reproduce. 

But in those cases, finding opposite-sex spouses and reproducing was the result of societal pressure to be normal. If we remove societal pressure from the discussion and look solely at the proposed evolutionary science of the mythical gay gene, it becomes clear that such a gene would not be propagated.

139 posted on 10/17/2015 7:16:31 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: xzins

bookmark


140 posted on 10/17/2015 7:21:44 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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