Major Gun Trafficking Bust in NYC Highlights Flow of Guns From State With Looser Gun Laws

ABC ^ | 10/14/15 | Aaron Katersky

[napscoordinator]

Chicago has the same thing. Indiana and Wisconsin are close enough to get all the guns and bring them into Chicago. Of course only criminals do this.

[snowtigger]

Chicago has the same thing. Indiana and Wisconsin are close enough to get all the guns and bring them into Chicago. Of course only criminals do this.

If they are truly buying handguns in Georgia and selling them in NYC, they are breaking FEDERAL laws in both states.You cannot buy a handgun out of your home state. You can close the deal, and have the Georgia FFL send it to an FFL dealer in your home state. This includes private sales of handguns.

Long guns are different, if it is legal in your home state, you can close the deal and take it with you.

If the Georgia Gun dealer is selling handguns to out-of-staters, he is violating the law , and when discovered will lose his license.

[marktwain]

Brazil has gun laws as strict as New York City. Their murder rate is nearly six times as great as the murder rate in the United States. They have a serious problem with homemade and illegal, small shop made sub-machine guns.

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2014/02/homemade-brazilian-submachine-guns.html

[Southack]

It’s not about gun dealers. The article above for this thread is propaganda to go after the so-called “Gun Show Loophole” of private firearms sales without background checks, dovetailing with Democratic Presidential candidates’ current campaign promises.

They want to shut down sales and gifts of private firearms between father and son on an 18th birthday.

They want to end private contests where firearms are the prizes.

Of course, they can’t say the above (not in public!). Instead, they have to phrase their new law proposal as being against “arms dealers” who are “gun running” in between states.

...expect many, many such articles as the election heats up.

[Jack Hammer]

“While officers can control illegal gun sales in their cities...”

Hahahahahahahaaaaa

Oh, that’s rich. That’s a hot one.

[Daffynition]

[snowtigger]

The Federal laws for buying handguns out of state are the same for private sales and sales by dealers. It must be shipped to a dealer in your home state and run through the same paperwork, any other way is a violation.

[Renegade]

PA doesn’t have loose firearm purchase laws.

[Pearls Before Swine]

It’s propaganda, but likely true.

I’d call it regulatory arbitrage—oppressive NY laws diminish availability and raise costs. Some people observe this, buy guns in other states, and transport them across state lines into NY. Illegal, and undesirable, but understandable.

The obvious thing to Dems is to make everybody’s laws as bad as New York’s. The obvious thing to anyone else should be to make New York’s laws conform to those of the states around it, as well as to enforce straw purchase laws already on the books more strictly.

The same sort of behavior occurs across state lines with liquor, when there are varying tax regimes.

[ConservingFreedom]

What’s fueling urban America’s ‘gun violence’ is drugs. Every snort of cocaine or injection of heroin or MDMA tab that winds up in the body of a metropolitan-area liberal Democrat originates from thousands and thousands of miles away, but is ultimately sold via illicit street transactions through multiple hands before it ends up in some liberal’s bloodstream.

The violence happens between all those hands it changes through

That's what the alcohol market was like during Prohibition; we solved that problem by legalizing that mind-altering drug. Just sayin' ...

[Svartalfiar]

and a variety of assault-style weapons, including multiple .22 long rifle caliber semi-automatic Walther Model MP Uzis

Bahaha seriously...

[BeauBo]

“Brazil has gun laws as strict as New York City. Their murder rate is nearly six times as great as the murder rate in the United States.”

That is true, but a big difference in Brazil is that the Police there shoot up criminals like the old Wild West/modern combat zones.

Youtube has lots of videos of Brazilian Police gunning down criminals, engaging in full auto firefights that look like civil war, and even executing survivors on the spot when Police were killed in the shootout.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC513Orfck0

That is a taste of the violence we would experience without a well-armed population, while we have a large criminal underclass and drug culture. Like Chicago.

[marktwain]

“Youtube has lots of videos of Brazilian Police gunning down criminals, engaging in full auto firefights that look like civil war, and even executing survivors on the spot when Police were killed in the shootout.”

I do not believe that residents of Brazil have anything like our Bill of Rights. Certainly, nothing that is enforced.

If there is someone with good information on this, I would love to be educated.

[The KG9 Kid]

Uh huh. They repealed Prohibition and instituted the 1934 National Firearms Act, America's first Federal gun ban.

I'm not about to give up my guns because liberals think they're entitled to legal and safe Angel Dust, heroin, and 'bath salts'.

Just sayin...

[Starstruck]

How long do you have to own a gun before it’s not a straw purchase? Just asking.

Maybe a trip to the range to determine how you like it.

[MileHi]

How did Prohibition work out for the USA?

Great if you were a G-man.

[ConservingFreedom]

What’s fueling urban America’s ‘gun violence’ is drugs. Every snort of cocaine or injection of heroin or MDMA tab that winds up in the body of a metropolitan-area liberal Democrat originates from thousands and thousands of miles away, but is ultimately sold via illicit street transactions through multiple hands before it ends up in some liberal’s bloodstream.

The violence happens between all those hands it changes through

That's what the alcohol market was like during Prohibition; we solved that problem by legalizing that mind-altering drug. Just sayin' ...

Uh huh. They repealed Prohibition and instituted the 1934 National Firearms Act, America's first Federal gun ban.

Swapping one big-government program for another. At least Prohibition was enacted with the prerequisite empowering amendment - unlike the wars on guns and drugs.

I'm not about to give up my guns because liberals think they're entitled to legal and safe Angel Dust, heroin, and 'bath salts'.

I don't think even liberals have been crazy enough to suggest that banning guns will lead to legal and safe drugs (although I'm ready to consider any evidence).

Alcohol and other drugs are safer when they're reasonably regulated, which can happen only if they're legal - which would also remove gunfire from the market as it did when Prohibition was ended.