Posted on 10/12/2015 8:15:06 AM PDT by DeathBeforeDishonor1
CNN)U.S. military cargo planes gave 50 tons of ammunition to rebel groups overnight in northern Syria, using an air drop of 112 pallets as the first step in the Obama Administration's urgent effort to find new ways to support those groups.
Details of the air mission over Syria were confirmed by a U.S. official not authorized to speak publicly because the details have not yet been formally announced.
C-17s, accompanied by fighter escort aircraft, dropped small arms ammunition and other items like hand grenades in Hasakah province in northern Syria to a coalition of rebels groups vetted by the US, known as the Syrian Arab Coalition.
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That’s ten tons of ammo per trained fighter. Those guys must be regular Rambos.
Yep....all of it.
Funny how Obama and Hillary couldn’t get any support for Americans at the Benghazi, Libya embassy.
Oh, wait, they wanted to win the 2012 election so they left them for dead.
yes
I do believe he misses the days of Soviet dominance from a nationalistic standpoint, but I see him returning to that as White Russia rather than Red Russia. Their nation is primed for divine blessing.
That was perhaps some of the worst analysis of Putin that I have seen......anywhere.
Putin is a repressive totalitarian who has fairly rapidly eroded almost any chance for the Russian people to enjoy even a shred of the political freedoms we enjoy in the West. Period.
Old communist regimes used to repress homosexuals far more than we ever did, did that make those communist regimes any better?
He misses the days of Soviet empire, he wants to rebuild it. It was an evil empire before, and it wouldn't be much less evil under Putin's vision.
The idea that Russia is primed for divine blessing is.......well, it's just sad to see someone here actually believe that.
Putin is not likely trying to create a new Soviet Union, he probably views China as a better model. Authoritarian government combined with some free market economics. He will try to walk the same line the Chinese do. Offer enough economic freedom to keep the country growing or afloat, and none of those pesky political/personal freedoms that might allow people to express dissatisfaction with his rule.
we didn't, obama did to take out a supporter and support his muslim brotherhood.
Yes, I thought guns were bad according to Obama.
So, he drops ammunition overnight using taxpayer dollars and aircraft?
Not that any of the left will figure out why there’s a crisis going in Europe now because of their undocumented poser.
lol
Isn’t it clear that Putin’s master plan is that he wants to win in Syria, destroy ISIS, and then divide Iraq with their buddy Iran?
Additionally, though Putin doesn’t have our best interests in mind, don’t you think replacing US influence in Iraq/Syria (we’ve already lost it anyway) with Russia’s influence will then make Russia the lightening rod with the Muzzies and, over time, will lessen the angst against America among their primitive 7th century culture?
Granted, having “influence” in the Middle East has strategic value and we’re losing that, but at the same time, Middle East “influence” has ALWAYS come with a heavy price. Isn’t it better to let someone else bear that price?
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The location, Hasakah, is right on the border between Kurd land and Arab land (if there are such things—probably just general areas). Anywho, here is an article linked on another thread with relative maps.
Deuteronomy 23:17: Our dispensational friends may balk, but this is the same God as the one we worship today; He does not change with the times.
Therefore, using history as a guide, we can predict blessing for nations, represented by their leaders, that align themselves with God's law, and ultimate curses for those that flout that law. Putin is a student of history.
This isn't popular, but I believe is consistent with history and will be borne out with time in the case of Russia, assuming they continue along this path...
Deuteronomy 23:17: "There shall be no harlot of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel." Our dispensational friends may balk, but this is the same God as the one we worship today; He does not change with the times.
Therefore, using history as a guide, we can predict blessing for nations, represented by their leaders, that align themselves with God's law, and ultimate curses for those that flout that law. Putin is a student of history.
This isn't popular, but I believe is consistent with history and will be borne out with time in the case of Russia, assuming they continue along this path...
So what about the mountain of bodies from the dissenters he’s killed over the years. He just all holy now right, you people are sad and weak minded.
Russia also attacks Israel if you read your bible correctly.
Russia also attacks Israel if you read your bible correctly. Ezekiel 38 and 39. So no they are not some holy nation.
These terrorists switch to whatever side pays them more money ...often in groups they also take the military equipment with them.
We have no business arming any of them...they are all terrorists. The once , and early on, New Syrian Army was kaput long ago and taken over.
Hard to believe Obama’s this stupid, unless of course he really is supporting Islamic terrorism. Worse is our government officials are supporting him by not doing anything to stop him.
I do believe we’ve had a coup.
Sure, it's also clear that China wants to dominate the South China Sea and the entire region if it can get away with it. Do you want to cede that territory as well?
Additionally, though Putin doesn’t have our best interests in mind, don’t you think replacing US influence in Iraq/Syria (we’ve already lost it anyway) with Russia’s influence will then make Russia the lightening rod with the Muzzies and, over time, will lessen the angst against America among their primitive 7th century culture?
No, I don't think we should cede anything to Putin and I find this sort of isolationist/defeatist attitude from conservatives depressing. Whatever one thinks of how Iraq went down and whether we should have ever gone there, we know the surge worked and had we retained a reasonable force in Iraq we would still be dominant in that country since it is the US who would have the bulk of the firepower and ability to project force. The fact that Obama destroyed everything that was accomplished is not reason to give up.
Why do you assume Russia is going to get tied down in any way? They will sell arms to anyone, and any Islamic uprising in their own country will be met with crushing force (something that we are too timid to do). Russia really isn't that strong again yet, but ceding territory to them anywhere just emboldens Putin to grab more of the Ukraine and try his hand at causing trouble in the Baltic states and maybe breaking NATO (which is his goal and a reasonable one from his point of view).
Led by a President with any balls and a reasonable understanding of foreign affairs, there is no reason we couldn't have stared down Putin long ago - possibly before he even had a chance to grab up the Crimea.
Like it or not, we are an empire. We don't like to call it that, but that is what we are - essentially a largely benevolent empire. We are also a very rich nation, despite all the damage Obama has done. Much of that wealth is due to keeping the current order intact. A lot of the complaining I hear from some conservatives and lately Trump, for example, is utterly misguided and lacking any understanding of the history behind many of our decisions. We are not defending Japan for the fun of it, we defend Japan mostly because we don't want them to become a potent world power again (though we are gradually asking them to reassert themselves as we are increasingly broke and weaker militarily). The same is true of Germany. We also get the use of bases which allow us to project force around the world in a way that no other country can.
Russia will sell arms to anyone. Hell, they'd probably sell arms to ISIL is if they could. There are no moral constraints to really anything their government does because the people are largely and increasingly excluded from the process. I have no problem with Russia being proud and strong, nor do I have an issue with China doing the same. But not at our expense. Give an inch, your opponents will take a mile. Everytime we step back in the world, something comes in to fill that void. If we were talking about another relatively benevolent government/empire, I'd have much less problem sharing the load - but Putin is most definitely NOT in that category. He is a strategic adversary at best, an outright enemy at worse. We should not cede the middle east to Russia or anyone else - especially considering they are supporting absolute enemies of ours such as Iran, Hezbollah, etc.
Thank you for the thoughtful question by the way. I think I get your points and they are a reasonable basis for debate. I hope I've at least answered your broader point.
Cheers
Stalin killed upward of 30 million... It is the atheistic regimes that have the most blood on their hands.
Expand your view of history beyond the past fifty years to, say, thousands of years.
As to Israel (your other post)... who knows? That's dispensational thinking... if it's correct, it would point to Christ's return - a good thing, no? All of this is taking place just 100 miles give or take from the Megiddo Plain... I do know that Russia and Israel have been cooperating on intelligence of ISIS/Rebel locations in Syria, since "we" aren't providing this.
...”Russia also attacks Israel”...
That’s correct...when is the question. ...and I do not believe we’re quite there yet....I’d have to see more before taking that leap. But it’s quite interesting that Russia is now fighting just above Israel....and I wouldn’t put it past Obama to push Putin back in a corner further until he responds ....we may up seeing Damacus fully flattened before this subsides.
“Hard to believe Obama’s this stupid, unless of course he really is supporting Islamic terrorism.”
He has supported radical thugs since his late teens, and never let up.
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