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1 posted on 10/10/2015 7:27:30 AM PDT by Helicondelta
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75 years after the fact, and the ADL is still demanding the German Jews’ right to be disarmed in the face of the Nazi machine.


2 posted on 10/10/2015 7:30:58 AM PDT by dead ("I'm up to my eyeball in virgin goats!" - Mullah Omar)
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There was already gun control in the early 1920s with the non-Nazis in firm control of the country. Roughly seven years later...the same non-Nazi leadership enacted more gun control. The Nazis after they came in with the 1932 election....simply put up a law that required gunsmiths to keep notes on all repairs and the serials/ownership of weapons they fixed.

For those who might be curious...the real fear in Germany in the 1920s was that all the troops came home after WW I with their weapons and communist revolution was the fear that everyone had....not the Nazis.


3 posted on 10/10/2015 7:32:46 AM PDT by pepsionice
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The small number of personal firearms available to Germany’s Jews in 1938 could in no way have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi German state.”

Oh. Okay. What if there was a LARGE number of personal firearms available to Germany's Jews in 1938?

5 posted on 10/10/2015 7:34:36 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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“Ben Carson Defends Hitler Gun Control Statements”

This headline almost gave me a heart attack!

Misleading me into thinking Carson was defending Hitler’s gun control (and statements Hitler made about it).


6 posted on 10/10/2015 7:35:51 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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I am definitely not a Carson supporter, but he is right on this one. He did not say anything about the availability of guns, he specified easy access to guns. There is a difference, and these freaks can’t resist their knee-jerk reactions against gun ownership.


7 posted on 10/10/2015 7:38:46 AM PDT by odawg
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The ADL proves yet again that it doesn’t represent the best interests of Jews, but the instead the political interests of the Leftists who long ago captured that organization. A pox on them.


8 posted on 10/10/2015 7:39:04 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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If guns were so useless, why did we make such an effort to arm the civilian resistance in occupied Europe during the war?


9 posted on 10/10/2015 7:44:27 AM PDT by muskah
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The small number of personal firearms available to Germany’s Jews in 1938 could in no way have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi German state.

A stupid statement. Dr. Carson did not indicate that access to a small number of guns might have averted the holocaust. He also did not say or imply it could have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi German state. Also the Jews did not know that they were being rounded up for extermination. I think most believed they were being relocated, which is just what the Nazis wanted them to think. The Nazis obviously were trying to prevent any messy resistance.

10 posted on 10/10/2015 7:50:53 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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the notion that Hitler’s gun-control policy contributed to the Holocaust is historically inaccurate.

Insanely foolish beliefs like this are a scary indicator of how deeply the leftist brainwashing has taken hold.

This asinine assertion doesn't stand up when it is compared to what happened in the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943 when Jews finally decided to fight back.


11 posted on 10/10/2015 7:54:38 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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In every liberal’s mind there is a Pol Pot trying to get out.


12 posted on 10/10/2015 8:00:40 AM PDT by bruoz
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“Jews would not have been slaughtered if they had easy access to guns.”

I say you- “Give one Jew a gun and he`ll hold out a month against the whole German SS.”

WARSAW GHETTO

“The German forces intended to begin the operation to liquidate the Warsaw ghetto on April 19, 1943, the eve of Passover...

55,000-60,000 Jews remaining in the Warsaw ghetto...
The Germans had planned to liquidate the Warsaw ghetto in three days, but the ghetto fighters held out for more than a month. Even after the end of the uprising on May 16, 1943, individual Jews hiding out in the ruins of the ghetto continued to attack the patrols of the Germans and their auxiliaries. The Warsaw ghetto uprising was the largest, symbolically most important Jewish uprising, and the first urban uprising, in German-occupied Europe. The resistance in Warsaw inspired other uprisings in ghettos (e.g., Bialystok and Minsk) and killing centers (Treblinka and Sobibor).

Armed with pistols, grenades (many of them homemade), and a few automatic weapons and rifles, the ZOB fighters stunned the Germans and their auxiliaries on the first day of fighting, forcing the German forces to retreat outside the ghetto wall.”

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005188


15 posted on 10/10/2015 8:10:14 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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Hitler wasn’t the only one... Almost all modern day mass murderers disarmed their populations before slaughtering them... Stalin did the same.


18 posted on 10/10/2015 8:23:15 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats want gun legislation? Fine. Pass a Bill outlawing 'gun free' zones.)
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Hitler wasn’t the only one... Almost all modern day mass murderers disarmed their populations - or their chosen victim group - before slaughtering them... Stalin did the same.

The people Obama wants to disarm are law biding traditional Americans. Obama has no interest in disarming thugs in Chicago who have shot over 2,000 people this year - murdering hundreds. That group of thugs Obama is very quiet about... wonder why?

Put that in your pipe and smoke it for a while.


19 posted on 10/10/2015 8:26:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats want gun legislation? Fine. Pass a Bill outlawing 'gun free' zones.)
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I am not sure how anyone on the planet could take issue with his comments. He is stating the obvious; that guns will help against tyrants.

What exactly is the controversy? The MSM makes themselves look foolish once again.


20 posted on 10/10/2015 8:28:13 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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The German Jewish population in 1933 was about 500,000. By the time the of the eventual roundup of the Jews during the war, the overwhelming majority of the 65 million other Germans had no problem with Hitler or his actions. The idea that looser gun control could have made a difference in opposing the German army, the SS, the Gestapo, and the civil police is absolutely ridiculous.


22 posted on 10/10/2015 8:31:38 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Condfscating guns is how Hitler annexed Austria without a shot fired.


24 posted on 10/10/2015 8:38:46 AM PDT by reviled downesdad (Mother Teresa on abortion: "It's poverty that children must die so people can live as they choose")
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...there is a reason these dictatorial people take guns first...

All you lib lurkers out there reading this take heed of these words. This is exactly and precisely why so many of your "leaders" want to disarm America.

What!? You say, rantings of a tin-foil hat conspiracy nut you think? No. College educated (multiple degrees in fact), family man, working middle class Mr. Normal here. However, I am now 100% convinced the "leadership" of the so-called liberal socialists have nothing less than the disarmament and subjugation of America as their goal. You hear it echoed (sometimes outright stated) in their statements. They want the power to do things, impose their will on us. They have a pen and a phone. They will work "with or without Congress" they will circumvent and pervert both the letter and the spirit of the law. But what difference does it make, really?

These people don't want us disarmed for our safety, they want us disarmed for theirs. It is a blatant lie that disarming a populace makes them safer. Common sense tells us this, history shows us this. When you lib lurkers out there advocate for "gun control" or support those who do, you are buying into the lie. That, or you support the fascists. Either way, you are un-American and anti-American. You do not get to call yourself freedom-loving, accepting, etc. You are a fascist, or a fascist supporter. Think about it. Yes freedom and liberty are messy, even dangerous and onerous at times. That's what comes with personal responsibility and accountability. It's not easy, but the alternative ultimately is servitude to a master. Choose wisely.

27 posted on 10/10/2015 8:50:35 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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Thomas J Dodd used his copy of the Nazi weapons act as the basis of the 1968 Gun control act.


31 posted on 10/10/2015 9:17:02 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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One Serbian nationalist with a Browning pocket pistol set off World War One.
One Jew putting a few righteous rounds into Hitler’s screaming head in the 1930’s might have prevented World War Two.
Such a deed might have set off murderous reprisals against German Jews, but German Jews were a small percentage of Holocaust victims. 95% were in areas Germany invaded or controlled due to the war: Poland, Eastern Europe, Ukraine, etc.


33 posted on 10/10/2015 9:20:27 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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“Gun control” is not about controlling guns. It’s about controlling the people.


34 posted on 10/10/2015 9:24:56 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Normal people don't vote Democrat.)
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