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To: Helicondelta

The German Jewish population in 1933 was about 500,000. By the time the of the eventual roundup of the Jews during the war, the overwhelming majority of the 65 million other Germans had no problem with Hitler or his actions. The idea that looser gun control could have made a difference in opposing the German army, the SS, the Gestapo, and the civil police is absolutely ridiculous.


22 posted on 10/10/2015 8:31:38 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Still pimping your complete ignorance I see. All ready pointed out to you how that is historic nonsense.

Hitler came to power because everyone who opposed him stood around like sheep and let him. Everyone from the Steel Helmets to the Communists simply did not resist. Hitler and the Nazis isolated and took down each possible resistance center 1 by 1.

Things may of gone much different if even one group had seriously tired to effectively resist the Nazis.

It utterly stupid, to advocate like you do, that it was BETTER for the Jews to not resist. Considering what happened in the Camps, resistance from the Jews probably would of failed, but the results would of been no worse then what actually happened

Anyone, such as yourself, who thinks differently is both wonderingly ignorant and totally naive.


36 posted on 10/10/2015 9:37:48 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: DoodleDawg
The idea that looser gun control could have made a difference in opposing the German army, the SS, the Gestapo, and the civil police is absolutely ridiculous.

Only to small-minded people.

The German army was a paper tiger early-on and the SA was intent on mowing down Hitler's opposition. An insurrection at home could very well have altered history.

39 posted on 10/10/2015 11:03:13 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama = Harper - Mercer)
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To: DoodleDawg; Travis McGee

That post is inaccurate

You have no idea how many Germans supported exterminating all European Jewry and neither do I really

Few knew the extent of the Final Solution....they were not privvy to Wannassee.....unless they lived near a camp and even they refused to believe what they were hearing....and smelling....they could not have known the extent

Deporting or Segregating them likely had strong support

Guns had to have helped

It’s better than being on your knees

But truth is many Jews simply could not believe the rumours they were hearing even till 43 or so

Some maybe into 44

I think most knew they were in trouble few dreamed what happened would happen

The proxy SS in occupied countries were more clumsy and open about it

Einsatzgruppen

In Hungary and the Baltic states and Croatia and Ukraine...still a Nazi hotbed....you had to know pretty fast after German occupation that you better run

Every dictatorship of whatever flavor wants the populace means to fight back

The left here in the US is no different

Some Jews in ghettos who could get arms did fight back....even if Quixotic it’s far better than just lining up to be murdered

Warsaw

Vilnius

There is no group that is not better off with the means to defend themselves

It’s not the Jews fault they didn’t fight back same as say Scots or Commanches might have

Theirs was an urban intellectual tradition but with notable exceptions and some sure as hell fought it all

I can tell you men with families in an occupation zone with a heavy hand targeting your demographic your first concern is to get your family out or safe and in late 30s Germany they lived amongst the Germans and thought themselves rather German too

By the time you realize the grip of terror you’re in....it’s too late

That’s what’s scary about a new civil war on our soil

It could be the worst bloodshed in human history

And most people in our quiet lives won’t know what hit them

Just like the Jews in Europe in the 30s

But you learn like Israel has and you stay armed

It’s your best shot


47 posted on 10/10/2015 11:49:01 AM PDT by wardaddy (The establishment needs destroying)
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