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THE PROBLEM ISN'T GUNS OR WHITE MEN
Ann Coulter Dot Com ^ | 7 Oct 2015 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 10/07/2015 10:46:57 PM PDT by Rummyfan

The media act as if they're performing a public service by refusing to release details about the perpetrator of the recent mass shooting at a community college in Oregon. But we were given plenty of information about Dylan Roof, Adam Lanza, James Holmes and Jared Loughner.

Now, quick: Name the mass shooters at the Chattanooga military recruitment center; the Washington Navy Yard; the high school in Washington state; Fort Hood (the second time) and the Christian college in California. All those shootings also occurred during the last three years.

The answers are: Mohammad Youssuf Abdulazeez, Kuwaiti; Aaron Alexis, black, possibly Barbadian-American; Jaylen Ray Fryberg, Indian; Ivan Antonio Lopez, Hispanic; and One L. Goh, Korean immigrant. (While I'm here: Why are we bringing in immigrants who are mentally unstable?)

There's a rigid formula in media accounts of mass shootings: If possible, blame it on angry white men; when that won't work, blame it on guns.

The perpetrator of the latest massacre, Chris Harper-Mercer, was a half-black immigrant, so the media are refusing to get too specific about him. They don't want to reward the fiend with publicity!

But as people hear details the media are not anxious to provide, they realize that, once again: It's a crazy person. How long is this going to go on?

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To: CPT Clay

You know, the issue is not mental health.

Warning mental health is a subjective issue and can be and has been used by the left to kill and imprison.

Very few mentally ill are violent.

The real issue is evil.

Evil propagated by a culture without boundaries. A culture that has not taught a preponderance of its underclass to be good.


21 posted on 10/08/2015 4:42:22 AM PDT by Chickensoup (We lose our freedoms one surrender at a time)
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To: Paleo Pete

Most of these planned attacks were not about mental illness but about evil.

Evil is a word that needs to return to our vocabulary.

Evil people walk.


22 posted on 10/08/2015 4:44:03 AM PDT by Chickensoup (We lose our freedoms one surrender at a time)
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To: Rapscallion

Some psychiatric professional has to medically certify that a mentally ill person is not a thereat to himself or others before he can be released.
My suggestion: Make the therapist who certifies that a mentally ill person is fit for release bear the burden of legal accountability if the ill person goes off the rails.

Then the therapeutic community will not be so cavalier about inflicting the damage from the mentally ill onto the society.
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The mental health community is in no way cavalier about releases. Patient right laws are so onerous that there is little ability to hold them.


23 posted on 10/08/2015 4:46:09 AM PDT by Chickensoup (We lose our freedoms one surrender at a time)
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To: 867V309
And it ain't guns with white women...


24 posted on 10/08/2015 4:47:15 AM PDT by Rodamala
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Yes, but 50 years ago the Supreme Court said that we could no longer involuntarily institutionalize the mentally ill without first getting a court order. They said that mental illness was not a crime and made it difficult to remove mentally insane Psychopaths from the streets. They declared that vagrancy and hobo laws where illegal and people had the right to pan handle and live on the street.

We closed all the state mental facilities that at one time housed the schizophrenics and mentally divergent who are often a danger to themselves and others.

Now instead of family members and doctors deciding if a person should be institutionalized, lawyers dressed in black robes make that decision. Like most thing lawyers get involved with, the mental health system is now all fu@ked up.

Community Mental Health Act of 1963.

I remember the anger when all the mentals were kicked to the street thinking these new and modern drugs would fix everything. So big pharma told the politicians.

25 posted on 10/08/2015 5:39:03 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

Judges should not be involved. They have no expertise in anything except making a mess of things.

Why must we give so much deference to black robed lawyers?


26 posted on 10/08/2015 6:55:55 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Rummyfan

It’s amazing there seems to be an epidemic of under-30, disaffected, possibly mentally ill men. Pajama Boy on steroids. Not working or going to school, effeminate, crazy eyes. And any one could snap at any time, for any reason that only he could understand.


27 posted on 10/08/2015 6:58:30 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: Jim from C-Town

Judges are either elected or appointed to make such rulings. They should act as a check against excessive power being put in the hands of mental health professionals; a profession that suffers from an epidemic of incompetence and quakery and always has.

Judges would likely normally defer to the combined judgment of family and psychiatrists, but they should ensure that those parties can show convincing cause to take away the liberty of an individual who has committed no crime.

It is called due process of the law.

Why do you give so much deference to white coated liberal quacks who couldn’t cut it as real doctors?


28 posted on 10/08/2015 7:34:04 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (Donald Trump: New York City Liberal)
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To: Rummyfan

After every mass shooting, the left has a lot of fun forcing Republicans to defend guns. Here’s an idea: Why not force Democrats to defend the right of the dangerous mentally ill not to take their medicine?

How? Role play this for me Ann.


29 posted on 10/08/2015 8:16:33 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Hillary: Julius and Ethal Rosenberg were electrocuted for selling classified info.)
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To: smalltownslick

[ It’s amazing there seems to be an epidemic of under-30, disaffected, possibly mentally ill men. Pajama Boy on steroids. Not working or going to school, effeminate, crazy eyes. And any one could snap at any time, for any reason that only he could understand. ]

Not to mention that many of them are pill-heads either because they are mentally screwed up by liberalism or their parents suck at parenting so they pill’ed their kids up and they keep adding more and more pills until their kids are mental pharmacological nightmare.

I think the latest school gunman in Oregon was a “mentaly ill pill-head” as well.

http://www.naturalnews.com/051453_Christopher_Mercer_psychiatric_medications_autism_spectrum_disorder.html#

There is a screenshot from the shooter on August 6th saying:

“I have a pill bottle with like five types of pills mixed in. I don’t know which ones are the sleep aids, so I just took four of each.


30 posted on 10/08/2015 8:50:22 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: CPT Clay

Here’s an idea: Why not force Democrats to defend the right of the dangerous mentally ill not to take their medicine?

Also we can chastise the Libs for forcing the changes in how we used to deal with the mentally ill by putting them in looney bins but they whined about how we cannot do that any more so they released them in public and drug them up on multiple shrink drugs at the same time.


31 posted on 10/08/2015 8:52:19 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: GraceG

I just assumed that the pills went along with their being mentally ill.


32 posted on 10/08/2015 9:26:02 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: smalltownslick

[ I just assumed that the pills went along with their being mentally ill. ]

Those pills are a double edged sword, they can be used mental illness and in a normal healthy individual they can create mental illness.

They affect neural chemicals, if the balance is off they can push someone who mas a mild case of depression into mania.

Add to that the fact they seem to be over prescribed as a “parental aid” for dealing with normal energetic children turning them into pill head zombies.


33 posted on 10/08/2015 9:37:08 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Above My Pay Grade
As it is now Judges do not defer to the family and health care professionals. Judges are just lawyers with better PR.
34 posted on 10/08/2015 6:46:24 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

The law is currently not set up to facilitate the commitment of the dangerously mentally ill. The legislature needs to act to empower judges and just as importantly to build humane facilities to house and treat these people.

At any rate trusting psychiatrists to lock up people for the rest of their lives with no judicial oversight is INSANE. Within 20 years all gun owners, pro lifers, devout Christians, etc. would be in rubber rooms with no recourse.


35 posted on 10/08/2015 7:20:46 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (Donald Trump: New York City Liberal)
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To: Rummyfan

In the U.S.S.R., mental illness was one of the most common modi operandi utilized to ship political dissidents to the gulag. What is to stop (state owned) medical doctors from doing the same in America? “It can’t happen here” sticks in my craw.


36 posted on 10/13/2015 7:32:23 AM PDT by Princeton_University (coulter, shooting, mental illness)
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