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THE TEN COMMANDMENTS REMOVE UNDER THE DARK OF NIGHT !
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| October 6, 2015
| knarf
Posted on 10/06/2015 10:03:11 AM PDT by knarf
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posted on
10/06/2015 10:03:11 AM PDT
by
knarf
To: knarf
We wanted it to be done as quickly and efficiently as possible, and doing it at night gave us the best opportunity to do that, Office of Management and Enterprise Services spokesman John Estus tells KOCO. The Highway Patrol was also very concerned that having it in the middle of the day could lead to having demonstrations of some kind.
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posted on
10/06/2015 10:05:17 AM PDT
by
Paul46360
To: Paul46360
The same tactic to remove gun ownership.
When Daily was major of Chiraq he removed an airport during the night.
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posted on
10/06/2015 10:06:18 AM PDT
by
Paul46360
To: knarf
Privately funded memorials must be destroyed, while publicly funded infanticide must be celebrated!
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posted on
10/06/2015 10:06:50 AM PDT
by
CSM
(White wine sipping, caviar munching, Georgetown cocktail circuit circulating, Perrier conservative.)
To: knarf
In light of the recent shootings, why would something that states, “thou shalt not kill”, be so offensive?
The more we push out God, the more deranged this country becomes.
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posted on
10/06/2015 10:08:41 AM PDT
by
dragonblustar
(Philippians 2:10)
To: knarf
This is EASY !
PUT THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
BACK UNDER THE DARK OF NIGHT !
Then POST ARMED GUARDS around it, as a community activity.
Take these GREAT WORDS with you.
Put them on posters along with the faces that said them.
Let us remember WHERE we came from.
Footnote: U.S. Constitution Article I, Section 8: Uniform Immigration Article II, Section 1: President Natural-Born Article III, Section3: Witnesses Article III, Section 3: Attainer Separation of Powers Three Branches of Government Tax-Exemption for Churches Republicanism
And let us NOT FORGET THESE GREAT MEN and
WHAT they SAID !
For what business, in the name of common sense, has the magistrate with our religion?
The state does not have any concern in the matter.
In what manner does it affect society in what outward form we think it best to pay our adoration to God?
The consciences of men are not the objects of human legislation.
In contrast with this spiritual tyranny, how beautiful appears our constitution in disclaiming all jurisdiction over the souls of men,securing by a never-to-be- repealed section the voluntary, unchecked moral persuasion of every person by his own self-directed communication with the Father of spirits!
William Livingston, Constitution Signer
Security under our constitution is given to the rights of conscience and private judgment.
They are by nature subject to no control but that of Deity, a
nd in that free situation they are now left.
John Jay, first Supreme Court Chief Justice
Original Intent of the First Amendment
Fisher Ames provided the wording for the First Amendment in the House of Representatives.
He did not say anything about separation of church and state in his debate, nor may it be inferred as his intent.
In fact, Fisher Ames said something that would be ruled unconstitutional because of the courts modern application of that very phrase, separation of church and state.
He said,Not only should the Bible be in our schools, it should be the primary textbook of our schools. xliv
Earlier, at the time of the Constitutional Convention, the founders discussed the individual rights of American citizens, which would later become the Bill of Rights.
How many times did they mention the phrase separation of church and state?They did not talk about it once.
The phrase separation of church and state was not even introduced into the American vernacular until a little over a decade after the First Amendment was adopted.
The phrase is exactly that - a phrase.
It is not a statute, it is not a law, and it is not an amendment to the Constitution.
It is simply a phrase lifted from a letter written by one of our Founding Fathers, Thomas Jefferson.
Jefferson was writing to the Danbury Baptist Association on January 1, 1802, in response to a letter whereinthey raised their concerns about religious liberty ever being infringed by the American government.
Jefferson responded that this would not occur because the Constitution builds a wall of separation between Church and State. xlv
So much has been erroneously inferred from that one statement.
Simply stated, Jefferson was using the phrase to describe the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment, which says, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. The protection of our rights to live out our faith without government interference is what was being expressed both in the letter and in the First Amendment.
What About Separation of Church & State
The Supreme Court twisted the meaning of the First Amendment by isolating those eight words from this personal letter from Jefferson. xlvi
They did not even consider the letter in its full context. xlvii
Then, in 1962, the Court used the phrase to completely remove God from all governmental institutions. xlviii
It is amazing how the court can ignore history and rewrite it to fulfill their particular agenda and purpose.
Weve Got the Wrong Guy
Perhaps even worse than misapplying Jeffersons words is the fact that Jeffersons words were used in the first placeas a means for discovering the intent of the First Amendment.
Actually, Thomas Jefferson and his words separation of church and state are irrelevant when it comes to interpreting the intended meaning of the First Amendmentbecause Jefferson did not give us the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.
When a biographer wrote to Thomas Jefferson, to congratulate him for his influence on the Constitution, his response was,One passage of the paper you enclosed must be corrected.
It is the following.I will say it was yourself more than any other individual that planned and established the Constitution.
xlix
Jefferson pointed out to the biographer thathe was in Europe when the Constitution was planned,
and never saw it
until after it had been established.l
Nor was Thomas Jefferson one of the Congressmen that passed the Bill of Rights, which contains the First Amendment.
So, arguing what the framers intent was by using Thomas Jefferson as an expert witness on the First Amendment
is the same ashaving a murder trial where the judge allows those who were not at the scene of the murder to come forth and tell us what happened.
It is intellectually dishonest
and a piece of cleverly crafted creative history at best, to say that Thomas Jeffersons words provide the intent for the First Amendment.
To understand the original intent of the First Amendment, you must scrutinize the thoughts of those who took part in the debate,the ones who actually gave us the First Amendment.
That debate emphasized the need to avoid another Church of England being established in America.
In other words, they were trying to prevent a national denomination from being forced upon the citizens.
None of their comments reflected intent to separate religious principles from government or from the public square.
Just the opposite:they wanted to foster free expression, not political oppression.
For those who still want to rely on Jefferson as their expert regarding the First Amendment, it should not go unnoticed that
exactly two days after writing his letter to the Danbury Baptists, he attended the weekly church service being held AT the U.S. Capitol.
These were religious services that he had helped to start and faithfully attended throughout the remainder of his presidency.li
It appears that Jeffersons views were far removed from the interpretation of them by our modern courts today.
Would Jefferson,a man who himself established and attended religious services on federal property while holding the office of the President,
really think that it was against the good of our nation or our citizensfor children to pray for their teachers, parents, and country at the beginning of each school day?
You decide.
Notes:xliv. Compiled By Friends, Works of Fisher Ames 134 (Boston: T. B. Wait & Co., 1809).
xlv. Letter to the Danbury Baptist Association (January 1, 1802), in Thomas Jefferson, Jefferson Writings 510 (Merril D. Peterson et al. eds., 1984) (1781).
xlvi. Everson v. Board of Education, 330 U.S. 1 (1947).
xlvii. Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Danbury Baptist Association, in Thomas Jefferson, Jefferson Writings 510 (Merrill D. Peterson et al. eds., 1984) (1802): Believing with youthat religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God,
that he owes account to none other for faith or his worship,
that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions,
I contemplate with solemn reverence that act of the whole American people which declaredthat their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,
thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.
l. Engle v. Vitale, 370 U.S. 421 (1962).
lii. Letter to Dr. Joseph Priestly (Washington ed., 441). < http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/foley-page?id=JCE1686>.
l. Id.
li. William Parker Cutler and Julia Perkins Cutler, Life, Journal, and Correspondence of Rev. Manasseh Cutler (Cincinnati: Colin Robert Clarke & Co., 1888), Vol. II, p. 66, 119,
letter to Joseph Torrey, January 4, 1802. Cutler meant that Jefferson attended church on January 3, 1802, for the first time as President.
Bishop Claggetts letter of February 18, 1801, already revealed that as Vice-President, Jefferson went to church services in the House.
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posted on
10/06/2015 10:10:13 AM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: knarf
I got a cool idea. Lets elect more lesser evil that will stand silently but WIN!!!!
To: dragonblustar
Damned atheists ... oh, wait ....
it was erected in 2012, prompting a lawsuit from Bruce Prescott, a Baptist minister from Norman who complained it violated the state constitution.
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posted on
10/06/2015 10:11:23 AM PDT
by
sparklite2
(Eagles fan after loss to Dallas -- This is the first time I ever saw the "prevent offense".)
To: knarf
I wold suggest a Hunting License for ACLU members before we lose the rest of America. Bit by bit we are losing the country we grew up in to the anti-America crowd. When the commies said they will take over America I didn’t think we were going to hand it to them. From the low-life educators to the even lower life politicians we have lost the argument because no one is taking it up anymore, just accepting any thing that they say.
It is good to be 80. Won’t see the collapse of this country.
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posted on
10/06/2015 10:12:00 AM PDT
by
JayAr36
(Old enough to remember when America was a moral and free country.)
To: knarf
If you think electing an “activist, loud and patriotic President to appoint” a SC Justice makes any damn difference, you are mistaken.
Since 1968 - 48 years - we have hade a Repub as president for 28 of those years. A Dem for just 20.
Not only is Roe v. Wade the law, so is Obamacare. And queer marriages have now been ruled as legal.
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posted on
10/06/2015 10:13:52 AM PDT
by
Responsibility2nd
(With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
To: knarf
It is time for the church to arise...
ISAIAH 60:1-2
Arise, shine, for your light has come,
and the glory of the Lord rises upon you.
2
See, darkness covers the earth
and thick darkness is over the peoples,
but the Lord rises upon you
and his glory appears over you.
To: knarf
And the other side of this is: when the islamonazis infiltrate local governments and municipality ranks, same goes for their (creepy) symbols.
Lets put the 10-C’s in our front yards and on our cars and our privately owned businesses.
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posted on
10/06/2015 10:14:37 AM PDT
by
two23
(Ignore the media. It isn't propaganda if we don't listen.)
To: JayAr36
68 and I feel the same way
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posted on
10/06/2015 10:14:54 AM PDT
by
knarf
(I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
To: Responsibility2nd
“We gotta win no matter what!”
-Liberal Americans who didn’t care what they won WITH. Just that they ‘won’
To: Responsibility2nd; knarf
And Jimmy Carter didn’t get to make an appointment, so effectively it is 28 to 16. Yes, all of the Dem appointments have been awful, but so have been about half of the Republican ones—or rather, two-thirds of the Republican ones start off good, and tw0-thirds of them end up bad.
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posted on
10/06/2015 10:20:14 AM PDT
by
Hieronymus
( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
To: knarf
ISIS in America. Destroying our historic monuments, one at a time.
To: knarf
I am the LORD thy God
Thou shalt have no other gods
No graven images or likenesses
Not take the LORD's name in vain
Remember the sabbath day
Honour thy father and thy mother
Thou shalt not kill
Thou shalt not commit adultery
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not bear false witness
Thou shalt not covet
What could be so offensive???
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posted on
10/06/2015 10:29:26 AM PDT
by
Dallas59
(Only a fool stumbles on things behind him.)
To: Paul46360
WHO? WHAT? WHEN? WHERE?, HOW?
Information must have a verifiable source,
To: knarf; All
While I have reservations about taxpayer-funded religious displays, it is within the 10th Amendment-protected power of the states, or the people, to decide whether or not to display religious objects on public land.
The bottom line is that if Oklahoma voters dont have a problem with religious displays, but dont lift a finger to change the prohibition of religious displays on public property, then that is their problem.
To: midlander
Oklahoma City ... Monday night
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posted on
10/06/2015 10:37:49 AM PDT
by
knarf
(I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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