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The Breakdown of the Black Family
The Atlantic ^ | Oct 4, 2015 | Kay Hymowitz

Posted on 10/05/2015 8:32:32 AM PDT by TroutStalker

With the publication of “The Black Family in the Age of Mass Incarceration” Ta-Nehisi Coates has added an elegant and forceful voice to the growing frustration with the inefficacy and injustice of America’s criminal-justice system. Mandatory-sentencing laws, the War on Drugs, juvenile-justice sentences that seem to do more to create than deter criminals, racial arrest and sentencing disparities: All are ready for a tough national cross-examination.

But even in the unlikely event that Washington and state legislatures successfully adapt the nation’s crime policies to a safer, more racially sensitive era, the nation will still look around to find more black men in prison than it might expect or want. There’s a simple reason for that, one that Coates himself notes: Relative to other groups, blacks commit more crimes. To understand why is to tackle some very hard-to-talk-about realities of black family life. And on that issue—and despite his announced interest in the topic—Coates has been the opposite of lucid.

Coates puts forward two interconnected, but flawed, theories about mass incarceration. First, he argues that there is no relationship between crime and incarceration rates, pointing his readers to a chart showing two apparently disparate trend lines. The first line shows crime levels rising dramatically after 1960; the second shows the rise in incarceration rates coming some 15 years later. Because of the 15-year gap, Coates concludes something other than a crime wave must have led Americans to lock up so many black men after 1975. “Imprisonment rates actually fell from the 1960s through the early ’70s,” he writes “even as violent crime increased … The incarceration rate rose independent of crime—but not of criminal-justice policy.”

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


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To: Mercat
It was probably almost 20 years ago that I got a call from a black man who was almost in tears. He and his wife had I think 4 kids and his wife had told him that she had gone to the welfare people who had told her that she would have X amount of money in the household if she divorced her husband.

You're kidding!!!!

21 posted on 10/05/2015 9:15:09 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son...)
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To: TroutStalker

So the author is blaming an unfair criminal justice system for the lack of black fathers in the home?
Seriously?

I guess they’ll see anything except for the truth - that the policies that make them feel good about themselves are responsible for the destruction of the black family.


22 posted on 10/05/2015 9:16:38 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: DungeonMaster

I’d hope that this was kidding... but the heartlessness can be so great.


23 posted on 10/05/2015 9:16:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Johnson.


24 posted on 10/05/2015 9:17:12 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Part of the problem is they get rewarded for indulging in “gansta” culture (if only that abominable thing called rap and hip hop — not critiquing a style here, but the content that goes along with 99% of it). HELLO, HOLLYWOOD?!?!?!

Talk about soft bigotry of low expectations. More like throwing them onto a rotten marshmallow.


25 posted on 10/05/2015 9:18:56 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: MrB

Maybe. I’ve heard it both ways then.


26 posted on 10/05/2015 9:19:25 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It was LBJ


27 posted on 10/05/2015 9:23:27 AM PDT by LadyBuzz
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To: LadyBuzz

Can someone come up with a reference to clarify it? I wouldn’t put an attitude like that beyond either one, but I am glad I am not going on Jeopardy ready to vouch that it was Kennedy....


28 posted on 10/05/2015 9:28:12 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Mercat

Take a large dose of ant-acid tablets and then sit down & watch The Maury Show for a week.

It will make you sick if you don’t use the ant-acids first.


29 posted on 10/05/2015 9:35:11 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Why not look it up yourself?


30 posted on 10/05/2015 9:36:02 AM PDT by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: TroutStalker

The federal government is the provider for these fatherless children.

THey are raised on welfare and ADC.

Don’t forget about the free (taxpayer paid) meals in schools.

At some schools over 80% of the students qualify for free meals.

Some schools provide not only lunches but breakfast and a snack or take-home supper.

Some provide meals on weekends.

Some provide meals on holidays and over summer vacation.

Is it any surprise that as they age (age, not necessarily grow up) they look to the federal government to provide for them and whatever babies they might produce?


31 posted on 10/05/2015 9:38:28 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Proverbs 21:20 - The wise have stores of food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has))
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To: TroutStalker

Incarceration takes away serial boyfriends, not husbands and fathers which are rare birds in the ghetto, anyway.


32 posted on 10/05/2015 9:40:05 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: Mercat

All that is a deliberate calculated result of the War on Poverty. LBJ knew what he was bringing on.


33 posted on 10/05/2015 9:41:10 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: TroutStalker

Endemic poverty in a modern industrial economy is caused primarily by broken families and substance abuse.

Street crime is similarly marked by broken families and substance abuse.

And broken families and substance abuse tend to go together.

If you are looking for the roots of the destruction of the black family, its the same as the destruction of American families in general only worse. Having babies when you aren’t married is a key first step off the cliff. Getting mixed up with drugs seals the deal.


34 posted on 10/05/2015 9:47:20 AM PDT by marron
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I believe it was JFK who said that he would have that [racial slur] “voting Democrat for the next hundred years.”

Not JFK, LBJ.

*LBJ: “I’ll Have Them Niggers Voting Democrat for the next TWO HUNDRED YEARS!” While speaking to two Governors aboard Air Force One, the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, Lyndon Baines Johnson, uttered those twelve hateful words.

This is all you need to know about Democrat’s attitude towards minorities.*

*Copied/pasted from WebBlog USA.

35 posted on 10/05/2015 10:00:14 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: GOPJ

“.. but reality being what it is... often the ‘father’ lost interest by the time the child was born. “

The truth is that the “father lost interest” about five minutes after completing the sex act that created the child. Or worst case, upon hearing that the woman involved was pregnant with his child.


36 posted on 10/05/2015 10:01:04 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: TroutStalker

It’s us white devils fault,
Always doing our best to keep the black man down.


37 posted on 10/05/2015 10:14:51 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Obammy is a lie, a mooselimb and pond scum.)
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To: vette6387

Before Johnson’s ‘great society’ - blacks and white had similar marriage rates... It was incentives that came with welfare that destroyed the black family.


38 posted on 10/05/2015 11:11:27 AM PDT by GOPJ (Dems want gun legislation? Fine. Pass a Bill outlawing 'gun free' zones.)
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To: GOPJ

I was in a drug store, the other day, waiting on pictures. I noticed a black FAMILY...yes, family...one with a father, mother and three children...waiting, as well.

Once I heard them speaking, I could here a foreign dialect. Not sure where from, but not from the US. I wondered, how long before these black fathers are replaced by govt assistance, too.


39 posted on 10/05/2015 11:14:38 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Jane Long

“Great Society” incentives are destroying white families too...


40 posted on 10/05/2015 11:28:53 AM PDT by GOPJ (Dems want gun legislation? Fine. Pass a Bill outlawing 'gun free' zones.)
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