Posted on 10/05/2015 7:16:02 AM PDT by cll
Edited on 10/05/2015 8:48:12 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
That reminds me of Bruce Ismay allegedly telling Captain EJ Smith that the Titanic should sail with max power so that they could reach NYC a day earlier...
Is there any talk that the ship was scuttled ..??
I just keep wondering if there was anything unusual on board the vessel, and “whoever” decided to stop the ship from reaching it’s goal.
Do you know where the ship was headed ..??
When he awoke he asked me (because he knows I've read a lot on earthquakes and seismology), is America on one plate? I said, Yes. The 4 big quakes of 1811 and 1812 occurred in the New Madrid Seismic Zone which is considered an incomplete rift. Search for "Reelfoot Rift" or "Missouri Gravity Low". It is at the meeting of 5 states "in the midst of Babylon".
Others have had dreams or visions of America mostly underwater. On Oct. 4, 2015, the cargo ship El Faro sank. El Faro means Lighthouse. America was to be a lighthouse. El Faro is no more. This is a bad sign for America.
The Biblical Command to Flee ~ http://kenraggio.com/KRPN-Flee.htm
Jer 51:6 Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this is the time of the LORD'S vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence.
Is this area, there she went down, considered *the Bermuda Triangle*?
Had I been the captain, I’d have waited one day to see what this monster really was.
Yes.
The El Faro was headed from Jacksonville, Florida to San Juan, Puerto Rico.
There were 391 large metal containers on board the vessel, and 274 automobiles and trailers below decks.
This story is attracting a great deal of interest here in Maine because four of the crew members were graduates of the Maine Maritime Academy in Castine, Maine, not all that far from where I am.
I don’t believe the ship was abandoned on purpose. A category 4 hurricane is not something to be messed with.
The crew had radioed that the ship was taking on water, and was listing.
A sad situation.
They could have been going slower to try to let the storm pass or they might have pushing it to try to slip past. I'm having a hard time finding out exactly when they reported their last position off Crooked Key. Then we might be able to tell what speed they were making and what the strategy was. It's hard to understand why they wouldn't have taken steps to avoid the storm assuming they had the latest weather.
“The term I forgot in my original response to this article is “broach”. In other words the vessel broached becoming parallel to the waves, thus subject to much more intense battering by the waves. Under power the vessel would have been headed INTO the waves. Without power the waves push/turn the vessel into the trough between the waves, and it’s over.”
That’s about the size of it.
I read somewhere that Jacksonville to PR was 4 days.
In any case, there was a wager made and lost.
I’m more familiar with Great Lakes shipping. I was GM of a marine fueling business in Duluth-Superior for 16 years. We operated an 8,000 bbl lighter vessel in the harbor and had shore tanks at Two Harbors, Silver Bay and Taconite Harbor, MN.
The captain of our tanker put the last N6 fuel on the Ed Fitz.
precisely....if after clearing the sea buoy off Mayport, this guy woulda taken a hard right...head straight down the coast...he and his crew would probably be headed back from San Juan right now...aside from the number one rule of the sea..don't pee to lee...sailing into the northeastern quadrant of any tropical storm is almost maniacal....sailing inside the stream southbound, he would have had company...other ships and tugs were taking that route that day...
ALWAYS pee to lee...and proofread
Leni
“She sailed from Florida last Tuesday, right into the storm.”
The storm gained strength rapidly AFTER they sailed AND it reversed course 180 degrees just prior to the sinking.
Had I been the captain, I would have waited a day to determine the storm’s strength. If the journey from Jacksonville to PR really is 2 full days, one day of demurrage wouldn’t amount to much.
Can you estimate hourly demurrage on a vessel like this one ?
which was predicated by several wx prediction models hours before this ship sailed.....
“which was predicated by several wx prediction models hours before this ship sailed.....”
I saw NO models that predicted the path and intensity. If you have a link, please provide.
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