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Fiorina Did Refer to SCOTUS Decision As “Law of the Land”
Caffeinated Thoughts ^ | September 30, 2015 | Shane Vander Hart

Posted on 09/30/2015 11:35:42 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

Carly Fiorina’s recent interview with Jan Mickelson on WHO Radio on Friday is getting some attention namely because of what she denied.

“Here in Iowa when you say Supreme Court decisions are the law of the land that sets us off because Iowans got bludgeoned by court decisions here, and we went through Civics 101 and we don’t accept propositions that court decisions are the law of the land,” Mickelson said.

“Actually, with all due respect Jan, I think that is a quote from someone else, not from me. I know there are many Republican candidates, Kasich among them, who have said those exact words, but there is no doubt, there is no doubt that we have a problem with our judiciary,” Fiorina responded.

MIckelson later circled back to the original question after she discussed the importance of appointing the right judges, “so you never said that?”

“I am not aware of having said that. I am aware of other candidates saying that. I think this probably came up with the recent decision on gay marriage. My comment on that was we must exert enormous energy towards protecting religious liberty in this country, and that means every state has to pass a religious freedom protection act. We have had those pass in many state, and I stood strong and defended Indiana when everybody was piling on Indiana, but it is clear we have to pass those laws at the state level, as well as, the federal level,” Fiorina said.

She did refer to a Supreme Court decision as “the law of the land,” and that comment was made in the context of the Supreme Court decision on marriage that at the time was still a month out from being released.

How do I know this? She said it to me.

Watch the video of her saying it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6Ge6sIEicU

“I think the Supreme Court ruling will become the law of the land, and however much I may agree or disagree with it, I wouldn’t support an amendment to reserve it. I very much hope that we would come to a place now in this nation where we can support their decision and at the same time support people to have, to hold religious views and to protect their right to exercise those views,” Fiorina told Caffeinated Thoughts after a Dallas County Republican event in May.

“I think this is a nation that should be able to accept that government shouldn’t discriminate on how it provides benefits and that people have a right to their religious views and those views need to be protected. We need to protect religious liberty in this country,” Fiorina added.

Now granted she said this before the Supreme Court ruled on marriage, but her statement is pretty clear. “I think the Supreme Court ruling will become the law of the land.” The way it was framed it appeared she believed that regardless of how the court ruled.

Mickelson’s question wasn’t about her opinion about whether she agreed with the ruling or not. It’s about whether she believes the judicial branch is supreme. She is asked a lot of questions and gives a lot of interviews so I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt that she probably forgot.

That said she owes Jan Mickelson’s listeners some answers about her view of the judiciary.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2016election; california; carlyfiorina; election2016; fiorina; homosexualagenda; iowa; judiciary; law
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To: EternalVigilance
But if you’re afraid to get sued, or that you might have to spend some money to defend liberty and the obligations of your oath, you’re not going to get very far.

I prefer to set up the lawsuit I am more likely to win.

81 posted on 10/01/2015 7:35:52 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (CIAO Trump: Conservative In Appearance Only)
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To: Carry_Okie

If you think that analogy is applicable to anything I’m saying, obviously you’re not getting a very clear picture of what I actually think.

Maybe I’m a failure at communicating. Maybe you’re just hearing what you want to hear. I don’t know.


82 posted on 10/01/2015 8:00:25 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Carry_Okie
I prefer to set up the lawsuit I am more likely to win.

I don't have any problem with that. There is always room for prudential judgement, tactically.

As long as that approach isn't used as an excuse for cowardice or a craven unwillingness to sacrifice something to do what's right.

Which isn't uncommon.

83 posted on 10/01/2015 8:03:33 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Maybe I’m a failure at communicating.

No, it's how you are communicating that makes for unnecessary strife. When you use absolutes and unqualified statements lacking alternatives, the reader is forced to take you literally. Thus:

I believe you fight on EVERY front you can.
Yeah. They can also EITHER ignore their immoral, unconstitutional opinions, and/or impeach the usurpers.
True. But the threshold for simply ignoring their immoral, unconstitutional opinions as the legal nullities that they in fact are, is AS LOW AS IT CAN GO.
It doesn’t usually cost ANY money to simply do your duty and keep your oath.
I believe you fight on EVERY front you can.
Maybe they’ll listen FOR ONCE.
Yes, you do have a communication problem:

EVERY (twice), EITHER (with no other possibilities), as low as it CAN go (as if there was no possibility of a defensible hazard or way it could be easier), FOR ONCE (as if FRC had never listened before)... Each of these statements is exclusive, placing its object in a position or condition that is logically unlikely. Each invites argument by exception which you apparently find frustrating. Yet by closing the box, you exclude solutions outside the box, and are thus forced to struggle out of an unnecessarily difficult position. Struggles don't go over well.

I don't recommend that style of discourse. It carries the risk of making enemies where you could have enlisted allies.

84 posted on 10/01/2015 1:27:45 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (CIAO Trump: Conservative In Appearance Only)
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To: Carry_Okie

Actually, my “either” was simply an addition, an expansion, to the very narrow range of options you offered for dealing with the problem - a grand total of one option.

And you didn’t like that.

You’re just nit-picking and fault-finding.

Talk about unnecessary strife.


85 posted on 10/01/2015 5:22:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
You’re just nit-picking and fault-finding.

Considering that I merely responded to your query in order to be helpful as it seemed you wanted the feedback, isn't that the character of what you just wrote? I'm trying to tell you that when you leave no room for acceptance of alternatives, it is natural for people to take exception or simply not want to deal with you. If you don't care, that's fine, but when you list what you state to be the only alternatives when others exist, you just may get that response.

86 posted on 10/01/2015 5:40:15 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (CIAO Trump: Conservative In Appearance Only)
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To: Carry_Okie

I left other alternatives. You simply choose not to see them.

In fact, you started to nitpick and fault-find as soon as I offered alternatives to the one solution to the problem you offered.


87 posted on 10/01/2015 5:50:40 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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