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Minnesota court: BB gun is a ‘firearm’
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Posted on 09/28/2015 3:59:43 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

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To: rey

He always will be a FELON. He is a released CONVICT. Somethings are forever.


41 posted on 09/28/2015 4:29:56 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: Sasparilla
Neighboring Michigan recently removed BBgun/pellet rifle from the legal firearm definition.

Yes we did. That's what happens when adults control the legislative, administrative and judicial branches of a government.
42 posted on 09/28/2015 4:30:37 PM PDT by farming pharmer
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To: Red in Blue PA

yes. have zero problem with that.


43 posted on 09/28/2015 4:30:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: polymuser

“Then we must control pea shooters, dart blowers, marshmallow guns, potato guns, pumpkin chuckers and Nerf guns.”

Exactly! Where does one draw the line? Logic would’ve put it at the projectile being propelled by, wait for it..... “FIRE”. Duh!

Must be a libtarded activist judge.


44 posted on 09/28/2015 4:33:42 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: RightOnTheBorder

actually felons do have a right to self defense, as there have been cases where they have used another person’s weapon to defend themselves. they lose’the right to own guns but under self’defense situations like where theyve gotten a gun away from an attacker and used it or held the attacker at gunpoint, or used a family members’ gun to defend themselves and family from attack, there have ben cases where they have been okay by the courts in doing so.

not’being able’to owning property isnt the same as no self defense rights. they can still have edge weapons, hammers, screwdrivers, an automobile, rope, chainsaw. they are hardly defenseless given whatall can hurt or kill a person.


45 posted on 09/28/2015 4:35:55 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Carthego delenda est

i actually believe this judge is an idiot.


46 posted on 09/28/2015 4:37:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Carthego delenda est

Like five year old kids being branded a sexual deviate for kissing a classmate ...


47 posted on 09/28/2015 4:39:39 PM PDT by SkyDancer
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To: Red in Blue PA

I am of the opinion that is you use a firearm, no matter what happens. You will be tried and if found guilty, be executed within 90 days.


48 posted on 09/28/2015 4:41:38 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: Red in Blue PA

From the opinion of Judge Michelle Ann Larkin:

“The complaint alleged that Haywood possessed a Walther CP99 Compact .177-caliber BB gun and that Haywood was ineligible to possess a firearm based on his 2005 conviction of controlled-substance crime in the second degree. The record indicates that the BB gun looks like a miniature version of a standard Walther P99. The record also indicates that the BB gun has an effective range of approximately 350 yards and a substantial muzzle velocity.”

A CO2 powered pistol BB gun with an effective range of 350 yards??? I want one!!! Yeah baby! That makes me think of the tiny ray gun from the movie “Men In Black”.

http://mn.gov/lawlib/archive/ctappub/2015/opa141792-092815.pdf


49 posted on 09/28/2015 4:42:41 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Gay State Conservative

Unfortunately it was the Minnesota Supreme Court which made the determination that a BB gun is a firearm.

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/mn-court-of-appeals/1225873.html

Unless the Gov. steps in or the Legislature changes the law this guy is screwed.


50 posted on 09/28/2015 4:42:45 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: rey

My son can empty his 16 shot clip in seconds. A co2 powered semi auto is quick. reloading. Not so much.


51 posted on 09/28/2015 4:43:14 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: Domangart

Shouldn’t be. The penalty should erase the crime. If it doesn’t, it’s the fault of the law, not the person.

Make me a dictator, there would be fewer crimes, harsher sentences, persons completing them treated as reborn innocents.


52 posted on 09/28/2015 4:45:30 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down....and to the left.)
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To: Carthego delenda est

In a completely unrelated story other than i saw it in minnesota.. a dukes of hazard slot car set.. the generals roof was naked. Manager said they use to sell 2 or 3 a week. The new naked roof batch.. notta one.


53 posted on 09/28/2015 4:45:34 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Picture of Judge Michelle Ann Larkin at this link:

http://www.mncourts.gov/About-The-Courts/Overview/JudicialDirectory/Bio.aspx?id=302


54 posted on 09/28/2015 4:47:04 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: cableguymn
"My son can empty his 16 shot clip in seconds. A co2 powered semi auto is quick. reloading. Not so much."

Extra clips. I have four for my CO2/BB pistol. Loading the clips can also be sped up by putting BB's in soda straws. Plug one end and a bit of masking tape over the other once the BB's are in place.

55 posted on 09/28/2015 4:52:12 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Newly fledged NRA Life Member (after many years as an "annual renewal" sort))
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To: Red in Blue PA

Where’s the fire? Compressed air gun. Kinda like a fart, which can be deadly.


56 posted on 09/28/2015 4:53:21 PM PDT by MisterArtery
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To: Secret Agent Man

I suppose my language was imprecise, let me take another go at it. A felon loses his right to mount a self defense as effective as that allowed to the general public, over the age of 18. Ok, I think I covered my bases there :-)


57 posted on 09/28/2015 4:53:51 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Iron Munro
Minnesota Court to rule on Constitutionality of state restrictions on high capacity firearms:


58 posted on 09/28/2015 4:54:49 PM PDT by FredZarguna ("It appears a Kenyan has infiltrated the lumber room")
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To: RightOnTheBorder

the word effective is subjective. people with knives, hammers, other non-gun tuff, kill people with guns all the time. the tueller drill? surprise attacks?

so the answer is still yes.


59 posted on 09/28/2015 4:56:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Minnesota liberal judge...

You are correct.


60 posted on 09/28/2015 4:56:41 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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