Posted on 09/25/2015 6:47:20 AM PDT by Red Badger
nitrogen oxides
I’m beginning to wonder if the EPA deliberately set the emission limits so low that it is basically impossible for any company to build a diesel car that will meet those standards, and still be affordable and/or drivable.
I don’t trust the EPA in any way, shape, or form.
And you have to wonder-have makers of gas cars been doing the same thing?
I loved 2002's before 1973 and an E28 535I or M5 were great! Also an E23 745I, WOW!
You are correct. They want to do the same thing to DIESEL as they have and are still doing to COAL.
Even if these cars were to pass all the tests unequivocally, they would raise the standards even higher, until the mfrs could no longer meet them without the Laws of Thermodynamics being repealed....................
NOx, Nitric Oxides...................
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOx
NOx should not be confused with nitrous oxide (N2O), which is a greenhouse gas and has many uses as an oxidizer, an anesthetic, and a food additive.
BMW is getting dragged into the VW TDI mess....
The 5 and even the 7 series have the worst resale value. Just like Mini Coopers, car lots will rarely take them unless you really sell low, and hope some schmuck comes in and buys it later.
Won’t be difficult to find out.
I suspect one of VW’s competitors was trying to figure out how they passed the EPA test and still got the high fuel economy, tested some vehicles at proving ground or public roads, figured out the trick, and sent results to Fedgov.
Volvo is owned by the ChiComs so it’s difficult to project their financial strenght.
If that was true, why are the notoriously proud Germans so quick to offer up confessions?
The EPA has made no secret of the fact they want to discourage, if not eliminate completely, light duty diesel.
“You don’t want to buy a Volt?”
If we used the same calculation that the rest of the weorld does which accounts for emissions by weight of vehicle, VW and BMW (and potentially Mercedes if they did the same thing) wouldn't be an issue.
I seem to also remember that the US' "clean diesel" mandate affected Semi trucks in a big way initially so I wouldn't be surprised to see Kenworth, Peterbilt, Mac, etc.. also "cheat" because the clean diesel mandate is impossible to meet.
I really REALLY hope this turns into another example of over-regulation being the problem.
I’m not suggesting they didn’t violate the standards (deliberately or otherwise). I’m saying the standards are the problem.
And, if I may be a little paranoid in saying so, I would not be in the least surprised if I were shown documentation that the EPA’s intention was to make the standards unattainable. I’ve no reason to believe that’s the case, only that these fascists are certainly capable of doing it.
An alternative diesel engine might now have an opening.
http://liquidpiston.com/technology/x-engines-diesel/
http://news.mit.edu/2014/liquidpiston-small-efficient-rotary-engine-1205
http://papers.sae.org/2014-32-0104/
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a15233/liquidpiston-darpa-contract/
http://www.wired.com/2014/11/tiny-engine-make-leaf-blowers-sound-less-like-jet-engines/
http://www.gizmag.com/liquidpistol-rotary/24623/
True. My point is why risk it?
The antichrist!
From your autoblog link you provided I went through some to the 36 articles about the VW instance and the article below is one of the best at explaining the initial history of this event.
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/09/23/researcher-how-vw-got-caught/
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