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Wouldn’t a balanced presentation have to include an almost constant ultra-Conservative spin to balance out all the Leftist media advantage?

That's your job. I mean, you can select your news sources to balance out prevailing media biases.

I don't believe that you actually believe that. Where do you go if not to FoxNews to find something Conservative?

It's not like you have three of that sort of network to choose from.

If Fox were going to provide an almost constant ultra-conservative spin, they couldn't claim to be "fair and balanced" and they wouldn't be taken seriously outside a very small group.

I would argue against this mindset also. Why do I say that? Just the perception of FoxNews being more right, garnered them a major portion of that media segment. With so many other networks out there to provide the Leftist viewpoint, FoxNews could have gone much farther right and still have been very popular. Why should they have to sell themselves as partly Leftist? Seriously. Put it out there and watch what happens.

For close to twenty years I have urged Conservatives to finally get serious about illegal immigration. People said, no you can't. Well guess what, the most popular candidate by a wide margin is selling an illegal immigration plan and hard Right values. People are eating it up, and would have years ago.

I'm tellling you right now, a clearly unabashed Right wing media outlet would rip this nation up.

Sell Americana, America first, morals, reglion, and exclusively Conservative values. The citizens of this nation are starving for this. The FoxNews slice of the pie would go from the 2.5 million neighborhood, to 10 million. The time for timid is done! Is Trump timid?

You can't expect them to throw away most of their audience just to make your media intake what you want it to be, when you can adjust it on your own as you see fit.

I already addressed this, but no it isn't my job. I'm not trying to sell my network to the public. I shouldn't have to do their job for them.

And yet FoxNews always had Leftist views, even sometimes predominantly, in their presentations.

Sure, there's always one person in a discussion to represent the other side, but to say FNC had predominantly Leftist views is going way too far. Even if you didn't like O'Reilly or Greta, there was always Hannity.

Is the Geraldo show middle of the road? Is Sheppard Smith a middle of the road guy? Is O'Reilly really a Conservative? Honsetly, you can go show by show and pick out full leftist programming.

I'm not trying to say O'Reilly is a full blown Leftist, but he is not a Conservative. He does do some good stuff, but his commentary is very iffy. If anything, you could term him as a man that muddies up Conservatism. How confusing is he on some issues? Very.

I'd like to agree with you, but FoxNews has frittered away it's position, and it isn't my job or anyone's job to go hung to Conservatism because they blow it.

I don't believe that you actually believe that. Where do you go if not to FoxNews to find something Conservative?

You said they should have "an almost constant ultra-Conservative spin." Now it's just "something Conservative." They give you that. If you want more it's up to you. Now there's the One America Network and maybe Newsmax TV (which will sound like it's going to be much more conservative than Fox News, but most likely will end up being just about the same ideologically).

Look at it this way: if you read the Washington Post and watch CBS, you get a liberal spin on the news, but you don't get what you do from the Nation or the Progressive or In These Times or MSNBC. If you want that further left stuff, you know where you can get it, but if they put it in the network evening news or the daily paper they'd lose subscribers. If you're trying to run the Weekly Standard or the American Spectator you can't go whole-hog Human Events conservatism or you'll lose readers.

Anyway, what we have now is a chance to test your assumptions. If OAN or Newsmax is substantially more conservative than FNC and manages to win a large(r) audience, it will prove your theory. If they are more conservative and don't thrive or even survive, it will go a long way to disproving it. I'm thinking, though, that if you were right, Bob Dornan or Alan Keyes or Pat Robertson or Duncan Hunter probably would have gotten elected president by now.

I'm not trying to say O'Reilly is a full blown Leftist, but he is not a Conservative. He does do some good stuff, but his commentary is very iffy. If anything, you could term him as a man that muddies up Conservatism. How confusing is he on some issues? Very.

They did have Glenn Beck on for a while as a host whose ideological views were clear, prominent, pronounced, and unavoidable (at least when they had him on). Maybe Hannity is that way as well, but not every host can be that. Look at it this way. If O'Reilly brings out two conservatives and one liberal for a discussion, then you've got two conservatives, one liberal, and one muddy-viewed guy. That's still better than the other established TV outlets. Even if it's only one conservative and one liberal, Fox still provides a fairer forum for the conservative point of view than MSNBC or CNN.