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To: daniel1212

As shown, the poster to whom we have responded (you have done a saintly patience job) is literally asserting that God would tell a falsehood as if it were a truth. That is asserting that God would tell a lie. I don’t suppose it will ever dawn upon such a twisted mind that if it could be true that God would tell a lie then how sercure could any Promise of God be? There is no thing more sure than a Promise from God. To call God a liar immediately cancels the accuser’s basis for faith and thus cancels at that moment their chance for salvation! But such is cultish religion ...


196 posted on 09/22/2015 7:52:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN
To call God a liar immediately cancels the accuser’s basis for faith and thus cancels at that moment their chance for salvation!

I'm writing to encourage you to reconsider this statement. I haven't followed the very long-winded and apparently acrimonius debate between Bob and Daniel, but it seems to me you've crossed an important line with that statement. It is one thing to disparage a group's beliefs as being sufficiently unorthodox to prevent salvation, but it is quite another to make such a charge publicly toward an individual, even in the third person, and especially inferentially, as you have. It appears that in doing so you violate Jesus' admonition against judging. You're thereby exceeding your authority, even if you are correct in your inference.

Please reconsider.

198 posted on 09/22/2015 8:40:39 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: MHGinTN

[[is literally asserting that God would tell a falsehood as if it were a truth.]]

that isn’t what I said at all mhg- I said Jesus used something that was false to point out to the false teachers that everything they claim In their false teaching is infact false- there’s a big difference there- Jesus often turned what the Pharisees said completely and expertly around on them- There is nothing in God’s word barring Jesus from using something that isn’t literal in order to illustrate a point- Surely you don’t think Jesus is an actual vine? Or a piece of Bread? Or that His blood is wine? NONE of these are literally true- none! Neither is the myth of souls crossing over into a supposed paradise that is outside of heaven

[[To call God a liar immediately cancels the accuser’s basis for faith and thus cancels at that moment their chance for salvation!]]

I called God a Liar? I simply stated that he constantly used things that are not literally true to illustrate points- That is all- The point being ,which you’ve missed apparently, is that if He’s allowed to use things like the vine, wine, bread that aren’t literally true, then He’s able to use a myth and turn it around on the false teachers WITHOUT becoming a liar Himself- The Very nature of a parable or metaphore is to use something which isn’t necessarily true to illustrate a point- Using metaphors does NOT make one a liar

But in your lust to label me a twisted sick person- you can’t seem to grasp that distinction apparently


199 posted on 09/22/2015 10:08:55 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: MHGinTN
That is asserting that God would tell a lie.

The bible does; however; illustrate that USE of a lie to further GOD's plan.


Joshua chapter 2

and...

Hebrews 13:11
By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.

204 posted on 09/23/2015 4:53:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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