Posted on 09/19/2015 6:45:59 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
On the 10th of April 2010, the Polish military plane, Tu-154, was involved in a fatal crash in the city of Smolensk, Russia, killing all the crew and passengers aboard. The deaths included the Polish President and First Lady, the last Polish President in exile, the Chief of the General Staff, Commanders-in-Chief, the Chairman of the Polish National Bank, the President of the Institute of National Remembrance, as well as a number of MP's, senators and prominent figures of the Polish elite, among the 96 dead.
April 10, 2010 Polish Air Crash
This incident, which includes these prominent deaths, naturally calls for a complete and transparent investigation - the natural work of international aviation agencies with extensive experience is just such investigations.
Yet, on the day of the crash, the Polish government decided to leave the investigation solely in Russian hands, without securing the rights to appeal to international organizations, aviation organizations, and relinquishing the right of an inspection, or any efficient supervision over examination procedures.
Specifically, the Polish government refused to consider any help from NATO, and did not attempt to gather any support from other European Union countries. As a result, all the evidence gathered has been left on Russian soil, including confidential military and security codes belonging to NATO's armies, "black boxes", and other flight recording devices containing all flight parameters.
None of this evidence, as well as any debris of the wreckage, has ever been returned to Poland.
This evidence has been held hostage in Russia for 1988 days
Polish Air Crash Disinformation & Active Measures
Highlights of desinformation and active-measures campaign in mass media after the crash
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http://www.smolenskcrashnews.com/polish-air-crash-disinformation.html
(Excerpt) Read more at smolenskcrashnews.com ...
Just as an aside with no particular relevance, what is it they’re calling the KGB these days...?
April 2014...
A plane crash at Smolensk in Russia four years ago wiped out the Warsaw leadership. It used to be seen as an accident. Now, after Putins games in Ukraine, people arent so sure.
Four years ago this week, Polish President Lech Kaczynski was killed in a plane crash near the Katyn Forest in Russia where he was flying to honor the 22,000 Polish officers, lawyers, priests and professors slaughtered there by the Soviets 70 years before. Ninety-five other military, political and public figures including his wife died on that plane. One of the more heartbreaking details to emerge was that First Lady Maria Kaczynskas body could be identified only by her nail polish and the inscription inside her wedding ring.
Less than two years before the crash the late president had given a speech warning that if Russian aggression was not stopped in Georgia, which Russia had invaded, it would extend to Ukraine, the Baltics, and possibly Poland as well. We are here to take up the fight, he said. And many Poles still believe that their president died in the cause of that effort. Physicist Kazimierz Nowaczyk is one of them. ...
(BIG SNIP)
He makes the case at the link...
Did Putin Blow Up the Whole Polish Government in 2010? A Second Look:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/04/11/did-putin-blow-up-the-whole-polish-government-in-2010-a-second-look.html
Two words..Alexander Litvinenko
The russians took this plane out to do away with Polands high ups that hated Russia and Russians.
Clinto took out Ron Browns plane todo away with Brown before Brown could spill the illegal dirt on the Klintoon crime syndicate.
How are these two different?
FSB.
It's related to this very recent event...
Russia threatens Poland over dismantling Soviet monument
Yahoo! ^ | 2015-09-18 | AP
Posted on 9/18/2015, 8:42:08 PM by WhiskeyX
WARSAW, Poland (AP) In a new dispute exposing the complexity of Poland's relations with Russia, Moscow is threatening Warsaw with "most serious consequences" for dismantling a monument to a Soviet World War II general.
The removal of the 1970s memorial to Gen. Ivan Chernyakhovsky began Thursday in the northern town of Pieniezno, where the general died of wounds in February 1945. He is buried in Russia.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
Russia is building a military base along the Ukrainian border, signaling its preparing for long-term support of the pro-Russian separatists fighting for Ukraine. The massive base - scheduled for completion in April - will house ammunition depots and barracks for several thousand soldiers, and will be used to train soldiers, reported Reuters. The Reuters reporter investigating the new base was temporarily detained and accused of being a Ukrainian spy. Russian officials didn't respond to Reuters questions about the purpose of the base and whether it's connected to the fight for Ukraine. ..."
"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the [20th] century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...
"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'..."
"The more I see and read about Mr. Putin, in power since 1999, and his 'managed democracy,' the more apprehensive I become about the future of Russia and the safety of its neighbors.
If Putin believes that the dissolution of the Soviet Union into 15 independent states represents the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century,' then it follows that Putin might well believe he should do something to repair the loss..."
http://web.archive.org/web/20090415000000*/http://www.hooverdigest.org/053/beichman.html
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The demise of the Soviet Union was the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century', Putin said in 2005.
http://www.thetrumpet.com/article/11102.30640.0.0/asia/moscow-puts-the-soviet-squeeze-on-neighbor-nations
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"Putin said Stalin deserves statues in his honor "
Poland has not been an independent state for that long. They were part of Germany and the Russian Empire.
Russia views all land that was once part of their empire, as Holy Russian Soil. In their iconography, they are the Third Rome.
This also means they will exert influence on the West Coast of North America if they can.
I remember this ... and there was a video taken shortly after the crash with a Pole commenting over the eerie (morning?) scene and several gunshots were heard on the video .... the commentater indicating WTF ?
“Just as an aside with no particular relevance, what is it theyre calling the KGB these days...?”
The successor agencies derived from the KGB are described by Wikipedia:
“In 1991, after the State Emergency Committee failed to overthrow Gorbachev and Yeltsin took over, General Vadim Bakatin was given instructions to dissolve the KGB.”
“In Russia today, KGB functions are performed by the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR), the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation (FSB), and the Federal Protective Service (FSO). The GRU, continues to operate as well.”
See:
Chronology of Soviet secret police agencies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_Soviet_secret_police_agencies
FSB
Regards,
GtG
I knew something was up when I read a report stating that the Russkies had gone through the pockets of all the corpses and stole NATO encryption keys, which they made use of right away. What kind of country steals everything off these bodies first chance they get?
Yes, I’ve seen the video you mention. You hear laughter in the video and gunshots, which the speaker then freaks out about and begins to back away. Some say maybe it was ammunition cooking off in the fire. Don’t know about that.
"KGB influence 'soars under Putin,' " blared the headline of a BBC online article for December 13, 2006. The following day, a similar headline echoed a similarly alarming story at the website of Der Spiegel, one of Germany's largest news magazines: "Putin's Russia: Kremlin Riddled with Former KGB Agents."
In the opening sentences of Der Spiegel's article, readers are informed that: "Four out of five members of Russia's political and business elite have a KGB past, according to a new study by the prestigious [Russian] Academy of Sciences. The influence of ex-Soviet spies has ballooned under President Vladimir Putin."
The study, which looked at 1,061 top Kremlin, regional, and corporate jobs, found that "78 percent of the Russian elite" are what are known in Russia as "siloviki," which is to say, former members of the KGB or its domestic successor, the FSB. The author of the study, Olga Kryshtanovskaya, expressed shock at her own findings. "I was very shocked when I looked at the boards of major companies and realized there were lots of people who had completely unknown names, people who were not public but who were definitely, obvious siloviki," she told Reuters.
Other supposed experts in Russia and the West have also expressed surprise and alarm at the apparent resurrection of the dreaded Soviet secret police. After all, for the past decade and a half these same experts have been pointing to the alleged demise of the KGB as the primary evidence supporting their claim that communism is dead.
From the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917, the Russian security apparatus Cheka (and its later permutations: OGPU, NKVD, MGB, KGB) had been the "sword and shield" of the communist world revolution.
"We stand for organized terror," declared Felix Dzerzhinsky, the first chief of the Cheka for Soviet dictator Vladimir Lenin. In 1918, Dzerzhinsky launched the campaign of arrests and executions known as the Red Terror. Krasnaya Gazeta, the Bolshevik newspaper, expressed the Chekist credo when it reported approvingly in 1918 of the terror campaign: "We will make our hearts cruel, hard and immovable, so that no mercy will enter them, and so that they will not quiver at the sight of a sea of enemy blood."
Unflinching cruelty and merciless, bloody terror have been the trademark of the communist secret police, from the Cheka to the KGB. Obviously, the demise of such an organization would be cause for much rejoicing. Hence, when the KGB was ordered dissolved and its chairman, General Vladimir Kryuchkov, was arrested in 1991 after attempting to overthrow "liberal reformer" Mikhail Gorbachev in the failed "August Coup," many people in the West were only too willing to pop the champagne corks and start celebrating our supposed victory over the Evil Empire.
But, as Mikhail Leontiyev, commentator for Russia's state-controlled Channel One television, recently noted, repeating a phrase popular among the siloviki: "Americans got so drunk at the USSR's funeral that they're still hung over." And stumbling around in their post-inebriation haze, many of these Americans have only recently begun noticing that they had prematurely written the KGB's epitaph, even as it was arising vampire-like from the coffin.
However, there is really no excuse for Olga Kryshtanovskaya or any of her American counterparts to be stunned by the current siloviki dominance in Putin's Russia. For nearly a decade, even before he became Russia's "president," THE NEW AMERICAN has been reporting on Putin's KGB pedigree and his steady implementation of a long-range Soviet deception strategy, including the public rehabilitation and refortifying of the KGB-FSB. ..." (continues at link)
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/8420-putins-russia
“What kind of country steals everything off these bodies first chance they get?”
Russia, ISIL caliphate, Somalia, Liberia....
Sorry, I thought at first you meant this thread had no particular relevance. Thus I linked it to the recent thing that happened between Russia and Poland.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2012/mar/11/journalist-safety-vladimir-putin
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/19/AR2009011902604.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11212072/Russian-actor-and-Putin-critic-found-dead-in-Moscow.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Anna_Politkovskaya
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mi5-believe-vladimir-putin-behind-3897973
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/dec/18/observer-editorial-putin-russia-journalists-murdered
http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardbehar/2014/07/16/open-letter-to-russias-putin-on-tenth-anniversary-of-forbes-editor-paul-klebnikovs-murder-why-havent-you-solved-this-case/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10728908/Billionaire-critic-of-Putin-may-have-been-murdered-rules-coroner.html http://www.amazon.com/Putins-Labyrinth-Spies-Murder-Russia/dp/0812978412
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/22/brits-investigate-the-assassination-of-the-spy-who-warned-us-about-putin.html#
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/21/malaysia-airlines-flight-father-letter_n_5607856.html
http://kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2014/07/13/19336.shtml
November 1998 - Less than four months after Putin takes over at the KGB, opposition Duma Deputy Galina Starovoitova, the most prominent pro-democracy Kremlin critic in the nation, is murdered at her apartment building in St. Petersburg.
April 2003 - Sergei Yushenkov, co-chairman of the Liberal Russia political party, is gunned down at the entrance of his Moscow apartment block. Yushenkov had been serving as the vice chair of the group known as the Kovalev Commission which was formed to informally investigate charges that Putins KGB had planted the Pechatniki and Kashirskoye apartment bombs
July 2003 - Yuri Shchekochikhin , a vocal opposition journalist and member of the Russian Dumaand the Kovalev Commission, suddenly contracts a mysterious illness. After his sudden death on July 3rd. The Russian authorities refused to allow an autopsy, his relatives managed to send a specimen of his skin to London, where a tentative diagnosis was made of poisoning with thallium (a poison commonly used by the KGB, at first suspected in the Litvinenko killing).
June 2004 - Nikolai Girenko, a prominent human rights defender, Professor of Ethnology and expert on racism and discrimination in the Russian Federation is shot dead in his home in St Petersburg.
July 2004 - Paul Klebnikov, editor of the Russian edition Forbes magazine, is shot and killed in Moscow.
September 2004 - Viktor Yushchenko, anti-Russian candidate for the presidency of the Ukraine, is poisoned by Dioxin. Yushchenkos chief of staff OlegRibachuk suggests that the poison used was amycotoxin called T-2, also known as Yellow Rain, a Soviet-era substance which was reputedly used in Afghanistan as a chemical weapon. Miraculously, he survives the attack.
September 2006 - Andrei Kozlov, First Deputy Chairman of Russias Central Bank, who strove to stamp out money laundering the highest-ranking reformer in Russia, is shot and killed in Moscow.
October 2006 - Anna Politkovskaya, author of countless books and articles exposing Russian human rights violations in Chechnya and attacking Vladimir Putin as a dictator, is shot and killed at her home in Moscow.
November 2006 - Alexander Litvinenko, KGB defector and author of the book Blowing up Russia, which accuses the Kremlin of masterminding the and Pechatniki andKashirskoye bombings in order to blame Chechen terrorists and whip up support for an invasion of Chechnya (which shortly followed), is fatally poisoned by radioactive Polonium obtained from Russian sources.
On January 19, 2009, Russian human rights attorney Stanslav Markelov was shot in the back of the head with a silenced pistol as he left a press conference at which he announced his intention to sue the Russian government for its early release of the Col. Yuri Budanov, who murdered his 18-year-old client in Chechnya five years earlier. Also shot and killed was Anastasia Barburova, a young journalism student who was working for Novaya Gazeta and who had studied under Anna Politkovskaya, reporting on the Budanov proceedings.
On July 14, 2009, leading Russian human rights journalist and activist Natalia Estemirova , a single mother of a teenaged daughter, was abducted in front of her home in Grozny, Chechnya, spirited across the border into Ingushetia, shot and dumped in a roadside gutter.
http://larussophobe.wordpress.com/putinmurders/ Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3dd_1401997313#XRRREys6DwG6l1tA.99
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