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Now Is No Time to Be Voting for President Based on Emotion
NRO ^ | September 15, 2015 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 09/15/2015 3:43:16 AM PDT by nikos1121

In a country with more than 300 million people, it is remarkable how obsessed the media have become with just one — Donald Trump. What is even more remarkable is that, after six years of repeated disasters, both domestically and internationally, under a glib egomaniac in the White House, so many potential voters are turning to another glib egomaniac to be his successor.

No doubt much of the stampede of Republican voters toward Mr. Trump is based on their disgust with the Republican establishment. The fact that the next two biggest vote-getters in the polls are also complete outsiders — Dr. Ben Carson and Ms. Carly Fiorina — reinforces the idea that this is a protest. It is easy to understand why there would be pent-up resentments among Republican voters. But are elections held for the purpose of venting emotions? No national leader ever aroused more fervent emotions than Adolf Hitler did in the 1930s. Watch some old newsreels of German crowds delirious with joy at the sight of him. The only things at all comparable in more recent times were the ecstatic crowds that greeted Barack Obama when he burst upon the political scene in 2008. Elections, however, have far more lasting, and far more serious — or even grim — consequences than emotional venting. The actual track record of crowd-pleasers, whether Juan Peron in Argentina, Obama in America, or Hitler in Germany, is very sobering, if not painfully depressing.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/424008/donald-trump-voters-election-egomaniac

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: patronizing; sowell; trump
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To: DHerion

“You’re very thin skinned and incoherent...like Trump”

So objecting to Hitler being compared to Trump is “thin skinned” now is it?

Look up “Hitler” online....according to you you’ll find benign references to “charismatic leader” and “had many admiring followers” as the lead on his bio?

You really are a disgusting excuse for you human being.

You won’t even admit such an obvious error in the authors comparison, because you are too politically biased against one particular candidate.

The author was stupid to make such a gradeschool error in finding similarities between two things when one of them is “Hitler”.

Dense and stupid is no way to go through life, son.


221 posted on 09/15/2015 1:58:46 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Stepan12

“Yes... the truth hurts and makes people angry.”

You mean Trump = Hitler should be just taken in stride?


222 posted on 09/15/2015 2:01:08 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: BigEdLB
I think all of us who are sympathetic to Trump are well aware of the flaws and recent changes. But he is who he is, a successful fellow, who shares a view that the USA has been taken down by folks who are more interested in their own political well-being that the country.

To be clear, I never said that all of Trump's supporters are part of a personality cult. However, many are not as aware of his flaws as you seem to be. I don't know how often posts about Trump's countless recent political flip-flops are met with childish ad hominem and hateful vitriol from many of his supporters.

Who knows, I may even wind up voting for Trump, simply because Cruz isn't getting any mass appeal traction and the rest of the higher-tier candidates are mostly unacceptable. However, that doesn't mean that I don't find people who compare Trump to America's Founding Fathers, to superheroes, or to demigods in Greek mythology a little loopy and disturbing.

223 posted on 09/15/2015 2:05:31 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: RFEngineer
You're doing it again. Using a Liberal {Marxist actually} Tactic to try and shut me up. Supporting Hitler would be evil and cause to be upset. No one was doing that not Sowell nor me.

Sowell is simply talking about the vulnerabilities existing at the time that allowed him {meaning Hitler or other dictator} and in other nations other dictators with the same horrid results to happen when the wrong person comes. They play the people on their anger & momentarily emotionally {to the enraged people} fill the vacuum left with undesirable results. But you know that is the point now don't you? Nice try.

224 posted on 09/15/2015 2:07:56 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

“Sowell is simply talking about the vulnerabilities existing at the time”

Oh, so Sowell is simply talking about how people elected Hitler and how people today might elect another Hilter/Trump?

Yes, that is completely different than saying “Trump = Hitler”

Thanks for clearing that up. We’re good.


225 posted on 09/15/2015 2:12:44 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
He's not saying Hitler is Trump. Obama isn't Hitler either but would you want another four years of someone as bad as Obama just this time it's on different issues? What do you actually know for solid fact about Trump politically? Where is his platform I want to read it. I want it in writing. I read GW Bush's platform twice and voted for an Independent each time. The same almost cult like shilling happened in 2000 & 2004 in here. Had voters scrutinized and vetted candidates we would have been spared they tyranny that has reigned in our nations Capitol since 1989. Comprehend that concept or is it forbidden as well?

BTW Sowell used Obama's name as well as a comparison as to how voters let him walk right on in. I don't hear your outrage over that LOL.

226 posted on 09/15/2015 2:30:11 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

I think you and have common ground and I like good debates myself. I appreciate your views. I am 60 and have been following politics since I was 5 years old.

Worked in a few campaigns and I find this campaign unlike anything I seen, I almost compare it to 1968 in a way.
By the way Bernie Sanders’ platform is straight out of the 1972 Democratic Platform and the George McGovern Campaign.


227 posted on 09/15/2015 2:32:32 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: RFEngineer

You do neither yourself nor you choice of candidate any favors engaging in switch ones meaning type of posting tactics. Think about this and then maybe Sowells article will sink in. For the first time in our nations history a devout Socialist is polling double digits in one of the two major parties. Now you want to act like there is no vulnerability occurring? And before you put words in my mouth I speak of Sanders. Don’t you think if the DEMs are running a Socialist and has the largest support inside the Dem party we should not be on our highest guard in the GOP as well?


228 posted on 09/15/2015 2:43:09 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

“He’s not saying Hitler is Trump”

Of course he is. That is exactly what he is saying.

” Where is his platform I want to read it”

I’m a single issue voter, and my issue is illegal immigration. Trump is the only one proposing to do something (an actual something) about it. So for me he is the only choice I have.

If he is nominated and sticks with the position on illegal immigration that he has, I’m going to vote for him.

There is no other issue that matters.

Trump is not Hitler, and Trump isn’t even like Hitler, nor are Trumps supporters even like Hitlers supporters.

There is no rational basis for making the comparison - but getting someone who doesn’t support Trump to admit that he isn’t actually, in fact Hitler reincarnate or even in the Sowellian sense (whatever he means by comparisons of Trump and Hitler - even if he is, as you say, merely being historically accurate).

No, Sowell stepped on his crank with a comparison like that. You won’t ever admit it - and Sowell probably won’t either.

So go with it.

I know what it means to say “X is like Hitler” and so do you.

It has nothing to do with historical accuracy.

You may not like the folks that support Trump, or that he is even there to support. Fair enough. Politics raises folks blood pressure - but to make ridiculous assertions that Trump, or anything about Trump, or anything about Trumps supporters resembles Hitler is absurd. You can’t see it, but there you go - it’s still absurd.

You want to talk about Trumps platform, knock yourself out. You should start by admitting the obvious that Trump does not resemble Hitler in any way and then quit defending Sowell’s comparison. It’s nutty.


229 posted on 09/15/2015 2:44:20 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: cva66snipe

“Think about this and then maybe Sowells article will sink in.”

Sowell’s article implies that there is something similar between Trump and Hitler, Trumps supporters and Hitlers supporters, and that we might get something similar to Hitler if we elect Trump.

There is no other interpretation. I think it’s patently absurd and ridiculous.

You don’t.

That’s where it ends, my friend. You are simply wrong to support such nonsense and foolish to try to rationalize it.

There is nothing else that matters in this nation if we do not fix illegal immigration, including tossing the ones we can find back across the border. Nothing is more important than that.

There is one candidate that is tough on illegal immigrants, and that’s Trump.

Now you’ve got folks like Sowell who think that is positively Hitlerian, and you agree with him.


230 posted on 09/15/2015 2:53:44 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: nikos1121

Well said.


231 posted on 09/15/2015 2:54:08 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: nikos1121
Yes, I used to enjoy reading Sowell's columns... now, not so much.
232 posted on 09/15/2015 2:55:29 PM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: BuckeyeTexan

>> More like causing the blinders to go on <<

Brilliant!


233 posted on 09/15/2015 3:01:32 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: cornfedcowboy

>> It is not just our country, but our culture that is on the brink <<

Indeed. And what is more representative of our cultural decay than just about anything else I can think of? Reality TV — something at which Dear Leader Trump excels.


234 posted on 09/15/2015 3:03:52 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: RFEngineer

Again, read the article...he wasn’t comparing Trump to Hitler as he was comparing guys like you to people who voted for Hitler, Peron and Obama...maybe that’s why you’re so crazed about Sowell’s article. You appear to be the classic ‘cult of personality’ follower, the same kind who think Obama walks on water. Blind idolatry is no way to go through life, pal.


235 posted on 09/15/2015 3:15:52 PM PDT by DHerion
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Sanders is worse than McGovern. I’m 58. In 1976 I voted for Reagan in the primaries then the lesser of two Morons Ford right before leaving for Basic Training. I’ve voted in all the elections I can remember. But my interest in politics took off for two reasons. Exposing & fighting Medicaid fraud & Hillary Care that got put in place in my state and a TV network Paul Weyrich started up in the early to mid 1990’s called National Empowerment Television. I learned there what GOP-E was LOL. Weyrich & others did a great job exposing them.


236 posted on 09/15/2015 3:17:35 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: RFEngineer

Yawn.


237 posted on 09/15/2015 3:33:03 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: DHerion

“Trump to Hitler as he was comparing guys like you to people who voted for Hitler,”

No difference. You don’t get it, I know.

“Blind idolatry is no way to go through life, pal.”

You have no idea. I’ve expressed an objection to comparing Trump to Hitler, Trumps Supporters to Hitlers Supporters, and saying that electing someone like Trump leads to someone like Hitler.

You are a fool to call that idolatry.


238 posted on 09/15/2015 3:59:45 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

There is a huge difference...the fact that you are incapable of perceiving that difference only means you are a typical ‘cult of personality’ person and Trump is your guy...you are blindly devoted to him and at this point I don’t think there’s anything he can do that will sway you from voting for him. Enjoy the koolaid.


239 posted on 09/15/2015 4:05:49 PM PDT by DHerion
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To: DHerion

“There is a huge difference”

No....no difference. Hitler references are wildly inappropriate. I get that you don’t get it.


240 posted on 09/15/2015 4:10:03 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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