[InterceptPoint]

Here is what I know about the “do we or don’t we” vote issue:

1. The Senate is going to vote and the Dems will filibuster. That will succeed so the bill will never be sent to Obama.

2. If the House fails to vote due to the failure of Obama to provide the full text of the Side Deals then the bill also fails to go Obama but is somehow magically Null and Void and we have a “victory”.

Anyone who really understands this should give the FR community a nice compact explanation of the above or perhaps correct it.

[USCG SimTech]

Today is day 499 left for Obama in office. Can this bill be jacked around for 500 days.

[BigEdLB]

House and Senate supposed to have 60 days after all the text is delivered INCLUDING side agreements? And if the House has no side agreement, then the clock hasn’t started.

[Hojczyk]

We only get to vote no….and it does not count….so Obama gets what he wants…they are that stupid I guess

[xzins]

I believe a non vote is the best course, because Obama can’t veto that, fail to have it overridden, and then have it become law.

If a law never makes it to a vote, then it never becomes law.

We are then, theoretically at least, dealing with an executive action at worst, and the Senate insisting on the constitutional treaty provision at best.

I don’t see how the money to Iran can be release with only an executive agreement. I thought the Congress had to be party to the release of that money.

[mrsmith]

I can partly clear up one point:
By refusing to vote on the ‘deal’- because the Corker law notification requirements were not met- parts of the ‘deal’ will be legally challengeable.

The big donors who look to make a killing from the lifting of sanctions don’t want a legally suspect ‘deal’.

[Qiviut]

Andrew McCarthy has a good article on all of this Corker deal, Iran mess (article at link). It’s not a compact summary, but it does a good job of laying it all out:

Obama’s Iran Deal Is Still Far from Settled
The review process under the Corker law never began — by the law’s own terms.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/423613/obama-iran-deal-kill

[Colonel_Flagg]

1. The Senate is going to vote and the Dems will filibuster. That will succeed so the bill will never be sent to Obama.

Since the deal contains money for Iran, any debate of the deal should be declared part of appropriations and thus subject to reconciliation.

[kitchen]

With proper timing, Agent Orange will be down the hall, kicking cans. The new Speaker will announce:

1) after careful consideration, the plan submitted by the white hut qualifies as a treaty;
2) the House has no intention of encroaching on the Constitutional duties of the Senate;
3) there will be no vote.

[itsahoot]

2. If the House fails to vote due to the failure of Obama to provide the full text of the Side Deals then the bill also fails to go Obama but is somehow magically Null and Void and we have a “victory”.

Wrong, if the Senate does not vote the deal stands as Obama negotiated it. That is the treachery that our GOPe conspired to carry out. It matters not one whit what the Senate does the agreement is made.

The Senate could regain some power by declaring the deal a Treaty, which it is, but Mitch went to so much trouble already to say that it wasn't, there is no way he will pull that off.