[grania]

Every one of the events you suggest are ones I'd consider. There isn't much doubt that toppling those dictators and the attempts at regime change have gone very badly. Those heavy--handed but effective leaders protected Christians and other minorities and kept the crazies in check.

Who ever could've predicted what is now happening? The Germans succeeded in removing most of their Jewish population....through extermination then resettlement in the Mideast. The irony....Now Mideast crazies could well be their downfall, and accepted with open arms.

[Nowhere Man]

It’s sad to say but Europe and even us, as defenders of the Western World, we will have to make tough choices at some point even if we have to violate the Hague and Geneva Conventions and even bend some of the rules defining war crimes. Hope it does not get too far like that but when it comes to survival, we may have to pull out all stops. It is like the movie “Conquest of the Planet of the Apes “ where they were fighting in the city, if I was commanding the Human forces, I would pull out all stops.