Posted on 09/04/2015 5:12:31 AM PDT by GIdget2004
Bottom line, host Joe Scarborough said, is that if Supreme Court makes a decision, that’s the law of land, right?
“You have to go with it,” Mr. Trump said. “The decision’s been made, and that is the law of the land.”
“She can take a pass and let somebody else in the office do it in terms of religious, so you know, it’s a very … tough situation, but we are a nation, as I said yesterday, we’re a nation of laws,” he said. “And I was talking about borders and I was talking about other things, but you know, it applies to this, also, and the Supreme Court has ruled."
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Did they? I hadn't read that any licenses were issued by this office.
We have to give queers and freaks (3 or more people) marriage cirtificates or it’s DESCRIMINATION.
Not "3 or more," but yes, "queers." It's the law of the land.
If you don't like it, then a Constitutional amendment or somehow changing the makeup of the Court and finding a way to get them to hear a similar case is the way to change it.
Not stompy-footing, denial of reality and allowing the painting of the right as obstructionist bigots.
We cannot accept one thing as wrong because we do not like the outcome. We as a nation elected these folks ans we cannot start advocating anarchy as they are.
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You would make an excellent Nazi. They too meekly went along because it was “the law”.
That is the statute that was struck down. Hence there is no statute authorizing her to issue any marriage licenses at all. She isn't. She is obeying the law by NOT issuing licenses.
Kim Davis is not arguing that she won't issue marriage licenses to same sex couples because the civil code prevents it. Thanks to the Supremen Court it doesn't. She says that she can't issue them because her moral code prevents it.
Her position as I understand it is that Kentucky Law requires her to sign off on all (every single one) of the Marriage Licenses in the county. No other person other than her is authorized to sign off on it. Her religious position is that she was elected to sign off on Marriage Licenses between a man and a woman when she took the job. She now has to violate her religious convictions by signing off on "perverted unnatural marriage relationships that are an Abomination before God" (Do you disagree with that description?) and her signature must be attached to the document by law. She is standing her ground. She should be applauded by everyone on this forum, but unfortunately there are a bunch of Freepers who think she should "do her job or resign" and let someone else violate Kentucky Law and God's law because "THE SUPREME COURT HAS SPOKEN" so we need to move on to more important issues, like how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
As best I've been able to tell, people are ready to nominate Trump based on ONE issue.
And for the record, the Kim Davis case encompasses A LOT more than one issue. If we don't have religious freedom, all of the border security in the world is worthless. I doubt that immigration status will be a big topic of conversations when those of us who are Christians are being sent to the gulags.
Free Republic will continue the fight for Liberty and against godless socialism and fascist judges!
September 3, 2015 | Jim Robinson
Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2015 5:39:43 PM by Jim Robinson
I stand with Kim Davis! I will not comply!
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Good luck with your revolution.
The New Deal court showed that the court can be responsive to public opinion. There is no reason to believe such extreme things you just said would happen.
And if they did, Congress has impeachment power. You forgot about that.
If SCOTUS became as tyrannical as you imagine, then extreme measures would be called for. I don’t see that now and I don’t see that happening.
“Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.”
Whether these “evils are sufferable” is a personal decision.
I'm sensing that reading comprehension isn't your strong suit (truth be told, I'm not all that sure you have a strong suit), but I indicated that my hunch was that a nondisclosure agreement had already been signed.
I'm not making anything up, I'm simply pointing out that Trump needs this to go away very quickly and quietly if he wants to stay in the race.
No kidding.
As I read this thread my head is spinning from how the Trumpers are spinning this betrayal of Trump as somehow a good thing.
Seriously, Trump could announce today that he is all for open borders and free amnesty for all and the Trumpers would still wet themselves with glee!
California voters a few years ago amended the state constitution to ban Gay marriage.
The state supreme court declared the duly passed state constitutional amendment unconstitutional.
So when judges can declare amendments to the constitution unconstitutional (as they are already doing) there is no recourse under the law left to us.
Just look at 12. they all knew Romney BBQ’s aborted kids for profit. It stopped no one.
We were repeatedly told that purity and principle were the problem. Lesser evil. No matter what.
Situational ethics again, just as I said would happen.
This is semantics. How SCOTUS interprets the law is how it is enforced. I don’t like their decision one bit, but I don’t like how my boss interprets the company’s policy either at times. I have a choice: stay or quit. The only other option is the Black Lives Matter option (chaos), and that is no option at all.
When push comes to shove if we allow the Supreme Court and the Obama Administration and rogue justices to take away our religious liberty, then we have no country to save from the "swarms" of illegal aliens.
Judicial Tyranny is much more of a danger to our liberty than 11 million (or so) people who have come to this country to (for the most part) escape tyranny and corruption and economic poverty. These people are having children and not aborting them. They are not advocating for gay marriage. Sure they are lowering the wage base and taking jobs from Americans, but that will not result in the long run in the destruction of our country. Judicial Tyranny immediately threatens the entire fabric of our nation. We have to stand up to it.
Kim Davis is standing up to Judicial Tyrants. She is trying to save this country and there are people on FREE REPUBLIC that think she should just surrender, quit her job and go back to being another drone.
Sorry but if I have to choose between a Wall to protect us from illegal aliens and a president who will fight judicial tyranny and religious liberty, there is no doubt who I will support.
Trump has built his entire candidacy based on his opposition to illegal immigration, but he apparently has no stomach for a fight for traditional values or the Constitution.
Did they? I hadn’t read that any licenses were issued by this office.
Heard it on the radio. Loud cheers..[puke].
“Not “3 or more,” but yes, “queers.” It’s the law of the land.”
NOt yet..but its coming. Otherwise, its DISCRIMINATION.
“If you don’t like it, then a Constitutional amendment or somehow changing the makeup of the Court”
Its a civil rights issue! End all government “marriage” and NOONE is DISCRIMINATED against. There is no way for the government not to discriminate as long as it is in the marriage business. So, get out all together!
“Not stompy-footing, denial of reality and allowing the painting of the right as obstructionist bigots.”
Who/what?
That’s California. They put up with a lot of crap out there. I might be more revolution-minded if I lived there.
But, they do still hold elections. They could change their legislature and change their courts if they really wanted to.
You would have made an excellent Nazi. They too followed the law. As millions of Jews were "lawfully" sent to death camps.
I agree this is the way out.
LOL with the jungle primary system, they often get 2 Dems running against each other in November.
That’s what torpedo’d Sandy Fluke.
Do you realize that in Kim Davis (as elected county clerk) is the one who is charged with interpreting the county's policy? She is THE BOSS.
Why do you want her to quit? Do you have no stomach for a fight against JUDICIAL TRYANNY? Should we all cower when the Supreme Court issues an OPINION?
Where in the Constitution does it say that a Supreme Court OPINION is the law of the land?
Yes, everyone who counsels following the law is a Nazi.
LOL
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