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Surging Ben Carson pulls even with Donald Trump in Iowa poll
New York Post ^ | August 1, 2015 | Geoff Earle

Posted on 09/01/2015 1:16:36 PM PDT by lbryce

A new poll in early battleground Iowa has former brain surgeon Ben Carson surging into a tie with Donald Trump for the first time in the GOP presidential contest — a stunning jump for a political novice who is the latest outsider to shake up the race.

Trump and Carson, who came to prominence when he laced into President Obama at a televised prayer breakfast in 2013 as the president looked on, each got 23 percent in the Monmouth University poll released Monday. Former Hewlett-Packard executive Carly Fiorina — another outsider who has never held elective office — is third at 10 percent. It’s the first time in a month that Trump hasn’t had the lead all to himself in one of the four early-voting states. When GOP voters in Iowa were asked if the next president should be someone “outside of government,” 66 percent said yes. Only 23 percent opted for “someone with government experience.” “People are hungry for something different, something that has not been tried before,” Iowa state GOP chair Jeff Kaufmann told The Post. “Certainly a neurosurgeon that is involved in politics is new. It’s out of the box, it’s fresh, all of those adjectives that people claim they want. “I always knew, obviously, Republicans are not fans of President Obama,” Kaufmann added. “The depth and intensity of that is actually more than what I had believed it was.”

Carson has impressed GOP crowds with his understated demeanor, slashing attacks on the president, and denunciations of political correctness. He is the only major black presidential candidate in either party, and grew up in tough Detroit neighborhoods — raised by a single mom with only a third-grade education..

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KEYWORDS: carson; iowa; trump
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To: nickcarraway

Carson deserves a second look. He’s a quality candidate. Could he be a hard ass if conditions called for it? That is the unknown.


41 posted on 09/01/2015 1:46:51 PM PDT by refermech
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To: lbryce
"'People are hungry for something different, something that has not been tried before,' Iowa state GOP chair Jeff Kaufmann told The Post."

Fascism has been tried before. It happens after folks with incomes from government saturate politics. Here's a look at the anti-Walker horde not including service businesses connected to and dependent on local governments to prevent competition.

Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”

Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think)
National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."


42 posted on 09/01/2015 1:48:04 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: notdownwidems

Now if Ben Carson was a fish it would be a surging surgeon Sturgeon!


43 posted on 09/01/2015 1:49:53 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: lbryce
It doesn't matter anyway. Those of you in the private sector and all who have personal real assets: get out, while you can! Refuse the debt/revenues! Trump has repeatedly stated that he would take 14% or more of those assets!

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Get ready! Dump the commies and fascists! Do it for the U.S.A.! Their are few poorer than myself. We can take a short depression, but we cannot stand decades with a commie/fascist regime! Flush now!


44 posted on 09/01/2015 1:55:18 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: lbryce

As noted on another thread, the best thing about the current polls is that the anti establishment candidates have 53% of the support. That’s excellent.


45 posted on 09/01/2015 1:55:20 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative
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To: refermech

You are correct. “Dr. Ben Carson was blunt about his past as a Democrat on “State of the Union” Sunday, saying, “I make no bones about the fact that I used to be a Democrat, I used to be a pretty left-wing Democrat in fact.”


46 posted on 09/01/2015 1:55:47 PM PDT by glenduh
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To: allendale
Blacks are NOT going to vote for Carson and nobody else should.

He is even more of an amateur than wee barry and was a DEM until very recently.

47 posted on 09/01/2015 1:56:11 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: entropy12

Gravis Marketing has a very poor track record in polling with some epic flubs. I would take anything from them with a pound or two of salt especially if it’s inconsistent with what all of the other polls are saying.


48 posted on 09/01/2015 1:58:26 PM PDT by NRx (An unrepentant champion of the old order and determined foe of damnable Whiggery in all its forms.)
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To: nickcarraway

Policy as an argument is dead. Republicans and Democrats alike killed it with their lying and self-serving work over the last few election cycles.

National politics has been moving away from policy and towards presentation and personality since 1960. That movement is accelerating.


49 posted on 09/01/2015 2:00:21 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Life is good.)
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To: refermech

This is not the election for sentimentality over substance.

Conservatives need to stop trying to go for “aw shucks folksy” candidate and go for the win for once.


50 posted on 09/01/2015 2:03:11 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: SaxxonWoods

So you are saying, Go, Jeb!


51 posted on 09/01/2015 2:10:36 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: lbryce

Obama carried Iowa twice, correct?


52 posted on 09/01/2015 2:36:05 PM PDT by Original Lurker
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To: nickcarraway

You seemed confused. Trump is the anti-GOPe. Jeb is the GOPe candidate.


53 posted on 09/01/2015 2:51:03 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: SVTCobra03

So the media says. In reality, they are both GOPe candidates.


54 posted on 09/01/2015 2:51:42 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: rovenstinez

you and jbush support carson.


55 posted on 09/01/2015 2:53:32 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: lbryce

Mr Gun Ban proponent pulls even with Trump- Swell


56 posted on 09/01/2015 3:23:54 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: allendale

“... If he were the Republican nominee and took 50% of the black vote, it would be a catastrophe for the Democrats.”

You win the award for most ridiculous scenario on FR today. Only because Kevmo couldn’t be here to push a cold fusion thread.


57 posted on 09/01/2015 3:34:38 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: lbryce

Wel Uh no. This is an anomaly. The new Gravis poll just came out today and Trump is at 31% with Carson at about 15% which is more realistic.


58 posted on 09/01/2015 3:45:48 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ladyjane
"""It depends on where you live," Carson said ."I think if you live in the midst of a lot of people, and I’m afraid that that semi-automatic weapon is going to fall into the hands of a crazy person, I would rather you not have it.""

I live Upstate NY. There are a LOT of crazy people in small towns (pops under 1000). Carson should just shut up and go play with his scalpels.

59 posted on 09/01/2015 4:11:23 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 1lawlady

Here, here! ;)


60 posted on 09/01/2015 4:17:20 PM PDT by ResisTyr ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God " ~Thomas Jefferson)
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