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Thinking About the Unthinkable: An Israel-Iran Nuclear War
The American Thinker ^ | August 23, 2015 | John Bosma

Posted on 08/23/2015 10:01:32 AM PDT by AU72

The signing of a Munich-class agreement with Iran that hands it more than it ever hoped to pull off represents a shocking, craven American capitulation to an apocalyptic crazy state: a North Korea with oil. Nothing in Western history remotely approaches it, not even Neville Chamberlain's storied appeasement of another antisemitic negotiating partner. But it also augurs the possibility of a nuclear war coming far sooner than one could have imagined under conventional wisdom worst-case scenarios. Following the US's betrayal of Israel and its de facto detente with Iran, we cannot expect Israel to copy longstanding US doctrines of no-first-nuclear-use and preferences for conventional-weapons-only war plans. After all, both were premised (especially after the USSR's 1991 collapse) on decades of US nuclear and conventional supremacy. If there ever were an unassailable case for a small, frighteningly vulnerable nation to pre-emptively use nuclear weapons to shock, economically paralyze, and decapitate am enemy sworn to its destruction, Israel has arrived at that circumstance. Why? Because Israel has no choice, given the radical new alignment against it that now includes the US, given reported Obama threats in 2014 to shoot down Israeli attack planes, his disclosure of Israel's nuclear secrets and its Central Asian strike-force recovery bases, and above all his agreement to help Iran protect its enrichment facilities from terrorists and cyberwarfare – i.e., from the very special-operations and cyber forces that Israel would use in desperate attempts to halt Iran's bomb. Thus Israel is being forced, more rapidly and irreversibly than we appreciate, into a bet-the-nation decision where it has only one forceful, game-changing choice -- early nuclear pre-emption – to wrest back control of its survival and to dictate the aftermath of such a survival strike.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; iraniannukes; israel; jerusalem; letshavejerusalem; nuclear
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Options for Israel may have narrowed down to this scenario.

And I absolutely believe that Obama would rat out Israel to Iran if he got wind of it.

1 posted on 08/23/2015 10:01:32 AM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72

Unthinkable???Obama and his Muslim Marxists have been planning this for ages.


2 posted on 08/23/2015 10:02:47 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: AU72

Obama will bomb Israel and destroy its planes if it attempts to defend itself.
The end game includes American soldiers willing to go to war against Israel. The alternative is a coup, imprisoning Obama and his loyal lieutenants.
Bad choices are being forced upon the world by a homo-cidal global marxist.


3 posted on 08/23/2015 10:06:58 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: AU72

The Rev Wright schooled Obama real good on how to view Israel.


4 posted on 08/23/2015 10:07:24 AM PDT by umgud
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To: AU72

Barry, the buffoons at the UN and old Horseface have already set it in motion.


5 posted on 08/23/2015 10:07:33 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Cecil the Lion says, Stop the Slaughter of the Baby Humans!!!)
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To: AU72
And I absolutely believe that Obama would rat out Israel to Iran if he got wind of it.

There were reports that 0bama threatened to shoot down Israeli aircraft when they were considering a strike last year. Also, on of the purported "secret agreements" that Hussein and sKerry agreed to, was to guarantee that Israel wouldn't strike Iranian nuke facilities.

6 posted on 08/23/2015 10:18:31 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (America for Americans - what's wrong with that?)
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Not at all unthinkable. If the Iranians are to be taken at their word, it's likely at some point in the future.

7 posted on 08/23/2015 10:26:59 AM PDT by SJackson (C Matthews: should NY State recognize gay marriage? Sen Clinton: "No!" The crowd booed, 2002)
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we cannot expect Israel to copy longstanding US doctrines of no-first-nuclear-use

This is the scary part. THANK YOU obama and democrats as you have made matters much worse.

8 posted on 08/23/2015 10:34:57 AM PDT by Mr Apple
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To: AU72

It’s a tad naive to say the pre-WW2 appeasement of Hitler doesn’t even come close.


9 posted on 08/23/2015 10:35:38 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (''Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small''~ Theodore Dalrymple)
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To: SJackson

The Iranians have crude atomic warheads. The Israelis have highly developed atomic and hydrogen warheads, including some deployed on submarines (giving them a second strike capability) so it’d almost be like 1945 USA vs. Modern USA.


10 posted on 08/23/2015 10:36:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: AU72
wonder what the countries in the prevailing wind fallout pattern from Irant think about it's suicidal ideations??? they may want to have a word with them first
11 posted on 08/23/2015 10:36:02 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Mr Apple
we cannot expect Israel to copy longstanding US doctrines of no-first-nuclear-use

I sincerely hope that Israel does use nukes first. It is her only chance for survival.

12 posted on 08/23/2015 10:44:47 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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The Iranians have crude atomic warheads. The Israelis have highly developed atomic and hydrogen warheads

True, but keep in mind that it only take one nuke (even a crude one) to ruin your whole day.

13 posted on 08/23/2015 10:46:13 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (America for Americans - what's wrong with that?)
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To: AU72

Israel will not be nuked into oblivion- the bible is clear- though the nations band together to attack her, she will stand and not be defeated- that would not be the case IF iran dropped a nuke on her-


14 posted on 08/23/2015 10:46:58 AM PDT by Bob434 ( person running,)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

IIRC, the Israelis have a great civil defense system.


15 posted on 08/23/2015 10:50:17 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: AU72

it is astonishing though to see the left and our president’s SEETHING ANTI-SEMITIC HATRED of Israel- apparently the left no longer wants God to bless this great nation of ours- They truly ARE doing the work of the Evil One, as evidenced by their burning blatant hatred of God’s chosen people- it’s just astounding how blatant and out in the open they are these days- showing the world that they would rather side with the evil regime of iran than to support God’s people

Apparently success, wealth, prosperity, and good times isn’t appealing to the left, and they seem hell bent on bringing down the wrath of God on this nation- the problem is that we all have to suffer for their anti-Semitic resentment towards Israel


16 posted on 08/23/2015 10:52:02 AM PDT by Bob434 ( person running,)
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To: Bob434

Genesis chapter 12, verse 3, says it all. America has blessed Israel & been blessed, up until this regime took office.

God is not mocked and catastrophe could be His reminder.


17 posted on 08/23/2015 10:57:35 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: MarvinStinson
Obama and his Muslim Marxists have been planning this for ages.
18 posted on 08/23/2015 11:03:37 AM PDT by Mr Apple
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To: AU72
I have been predicting this prospective war since the Iran deal became obvious as to what it actually is. Our Sunni Sultan believes he can kill two birds with one stone by provoking a nuclear attack by Shia Iran against Israel. If such an attack is made the IDF retaliation, which will occur whether or not there is still even land where Isreal now lies will glassify large strategic swaths of Iran and Iran will cease to be anything inhabitable.

Iran, though, just might, while eliminating it's immediate objective, Israel, take a side shot at DC and NY, the USA being its's other declared great enemy. Hussein is making sure with this deal that Iran gets both warheads and ICBMs. Hussein's Great Enemies are three, Israel, Iran, and the USA. When it happens I am sure Hussein will be playing golf somewhere far from the various potential ground zeros.

19 posted on 08/23/2015 11:06:27 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

The US government has been threatening through third party unofficials to invade Palestine to rectify the unfairness against the Palestinians there. The first time I remember was Z-Big Breshinski suggesting it during Bush’s tenure. The sideways muttering has been repeated a couple of times in the last 6 years.


20 posted on 08/23/2015 11:09:55 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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