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To: Da Bilge Troll

I’m not sure of the proximity of those “train officials”, but unless they were right on top of the shooter, they wouldn’t have had a chance to approach him and take him down.

Our military men were close enough to hear and instantly recognize the gun mechanism, prepping the chamber for the first shot.

They did what they had to do.

In a situation like this, some people want to assess blame. Sometimes there isn’t someone to blame. You have an idiot and he went off.

We’d like to think train officials (or anyone for that matter) could step in, but it’s not likely they could have. Them committing suicide accomplishes nothing.

I will say that security must have been pretty lax to allow this guy to get that gun on board. There again, do we want to submit our wives to strip searches to board trains?

The public needs to be trained to respond if they are the nearest person to something like this happening. Chances are they’ll wind up dead anyway. The closest ten people need to overpower the guy and put his lights out.

If someone can explain why I’m wrong here, I’m open to alternative opinions.


29 posted on 08/22/2015 1:47:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“””If someone can explain why I’m wrong here, I’m open to alternative opinions.”””

You would first have to overcome decades of teaching that only cops are qualified to handle criminals.


30 posted on 08/22/2015 1:52:16 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a deatha panel)
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To: DoughtyOne
"The public needs to be trained to respond if they are the nearest person to something like this happening. Chances are they’ll wind up dead anyway. The closest ten people need to overpower the guy and put his lights out."

As with Flight 93...

31 posted on 08/22/2015 1:54:12 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: DoughtyOne

“If someone can explain why I’m wrong here, I’m open to alternative opinions.”

You’re wrong. EVERYONE nearby needs to kick, stomp, hit, stab, or whatever they can do to people like that. Don’t have a knife? Use a pen or pencil. Wear sturdy shoes where ever you go. Carry a roll of coins. Steal the Scout motto, and use it.

OK, other than small details, you’re right! :)

Old Student


43 posted on 08/22/2015 3:01:22 PM PDT by Old Student (Do NOT make me get out the torches and pitchforks...)
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To: DoughtyOne

You’re not wrong.

There is a reason people are not trained to respond with force boils down to control. If people start getting the strange and radical idea that they can take care of business themselves, then they might start asking other hard questions like: “why the hell do I need police protection when I can protect myself just fine? “ or worse: “why the hell do I need to pay all these worthless politicians to sit around with their thumbs up their arses?”

Can’t have the populace getting all uppity.


61 posted on 08/22/2015 5:33:52 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Voting is useless, and it makes you complicit.)
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