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Why Conservatives Should Care About Ferguson
Townhall.com ^ | August 22, 2015 | John C. Goodman

Posted on 08/22/2015 5:21:12 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 08/22/2015 5:21:12 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
What a crock...

So we can "BUY" peace in the inner city if we just pay more taxes? I doubt it, and, to paraphrase Robert Goodloe Harper: "Millions for policing and incarcerating uncivilized thugs but not one cent for tribute."

The current trend to excuse or de-criminalize criminal behavior is going to get a lot of people injured and killed.

2 posted on 08/22/2015 5:34:21 AM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: Kaslin
The shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo. was just the first in a disturbing string of widely publicized deaths of black citizens who were stopped by the police or in their custody.

Yeah, walking down the middle of a street - a cop should just ignore that. And also should ignore that the description of one of the walkers matches that of a strong-arm robbery suspect that was just broadcast over the radio. Yep, the cops should ignore those small, trifling matters and wait until the Michael Browns of the world move on to bigger crime such as attempted murder. Which Brown promptly did when the cop tried to stop him.

I agree too much is criminalized in this day and age. I agree that cops too often profile race instead of activity. But in Brown's case, it was precisely his activity that drew attention. He is about the worst possible poster child for excessive force by police, and only liberal loons immune to facts continue to make him their cause. So what does that say about this writer?

3 posted on 08/22/2015 5:39:14 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Kaslin

He could have ordered the police teports online via email. I request them police departments all over the country online then have them emailed or mailed to me. In some instances I have to go to the police station to pick them up but those are generally the older Barney Fifeish stations.


4 posted on 08/22/2015 5:39:21 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Kaslin

The popos are NOT your friend, like they may have been in the 50s.


5 posted on 08/22/2015 5:39:59 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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There is police misbehavior and institutional excess, but to use the defensive shooting of the Gentle Giant as a case in point is just beyond stupid, beyond idiotic, beyond propagandistic.

I give this article a super-secret double-probation F triple-minus.

Back to 2nd grade, moron!


6 posted on 08/22/2015 5:41:24 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/Cruz)
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To: Kaslin

The truth is in the free market. If you go to poor black areas you will find grocery and retail chain stores with higher prices. In the typical American business model every store is its own profit center. That means that the costs associated with shoplifting and added security are added to the costs of items in that store. Poor areas pay more because they are full of thieves, (that’s a type of criminal.) Criminal behavior draws police like stink draws flys.


7 posted on 08/22/2015 5:41:57 AM PDT by D Rider
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Strongarm robbery is illegal everywhere, and you don’t get a ticket for it.


8 posted on 08/22/2015 5:42:05 AM PDT by Jim Noble (You walk into the room like a camel and then you frown)
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To: Paladin2

Dont do things to attract their attention.


9 posted on 08/22/2015 5:42:15 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Kaslin
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10 posted on 08/22/2015 5:45:22 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Kaslin
The shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo. was just the first in a disturbing string of widely publicized deaths of black citizens who were stopped by the police or in their custody.

Orilly? To the rest of us, it looks like another in a disturbing string of coddled criminals who are so used to getting away with crime that they get high on drugs and think they're Superman, and try to attack and kill armed policemen.

There's no precedent in American history for the percentage of blacks today who grow up without fathers. Under Jim Crow and slavery before that, two-parent families were overwhelmingly the statistical norm among blacks—far more so than among white families today. The rate of fatherlessness today is why the crime wave in Section 8 areas is so astronomical. It's programs like Section 8 and the AFDC bounty for bearing children on welfare are what created this monstrous trend—which of course is one of the things that genuinely hurts blacks in poor neighborhoods the most, since it subsidizes the bad actors there.

The comment about how black people in those neighborhoods pay the brunt of the costs for extra policing now required through nuisance fines is a joke. It's everyone not in those neighborhoods—anyone middle class who has a car, and can be counted on to get fined $250 for a routine traffic ticket and actually pay it.

11 posted on 08/22/2015 5:50:16 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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“What a crock...”

Agreed.

Side note per locked doors on Police Station.

I grew up in a Northern NJ town in Bergen County and the doors on the Police Station were never locked. I know this because as a 50’s juvenile delinquent my friends and I visited there on a more or less regular basis.

Truth be told we were on a first name basis with all of the younger cops.


12 posted on 08/22/2015 5:56:21 AM PDT by billyboy15
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Kool Aide mascarading as conservatism. Simple demonstration of cause and effect: violence and crime are far more prevalent with African-Americans and policing has evolved to deal with that violence.

It isn’t pretty, but it has kept most of us secure in our homes.

It doesn’t take too much imagination to guess what would happen if thousands of Michael Browns were turned loose to do what they felt like doing, does it?


13 posted on 08/22/2015 5:57:19 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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I completely lay the blame for what happened to Michael Brown at his feet. (Same goes with Trayvon Martin)

That being said, I’ve been thinking a lot about what is happening and I’ve tried to put myself in the shoes of an 18 year old black man who was born to a single mom, raised by his grandmother because his mom was a crackhead, or by a mom on welfare. I imagine my daily life, challenges, opportunities and events. And I have to say I don’t know that I would have the character - internal or learned - to prevent me from acting out like so many blacks from these areas do.

I’m not trying to say they are not culpable for their actionss But maybe, just maybe, their choices really do have more to do with environment than low character, The Bell Curve notwithstanding. And maybe we really CAN do something.

Unfortunately, none of my ideas are PC. They all involve “tough love”.

i.e. the author makes some very good points.


14 posted on 08/22/2015 5:57:21 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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‘The current trend to excuse or de-criminalize criminal behavior is going to get a lot of people injured and killed.’

Well said.


15 posted on 08/22/2015 6:02:04 AM PDT by griswold3 (Just another unlicensed nonconformist in am dangerous Liberal world.)
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"imminent domain?"
16 posted on 08/22/2015 6:02:43 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. ~ Þ)
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“Why Conservatives Should Care About Ferguson”

We shouldn’t, moving along.


17 posted on 08/22/2015 6:05:35 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Kaslin

Utter swill.


18 posted on 08/22/2015 6:07:40 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: cuban leaf
I’m not trying to say they are not culpable for their actions But maybe, just maybe, their choices really do have more to do with environment than low character

I'd put it at

environment: 10%, low character/evilness: 90%

There is no justification for acting like an animal, brutalizing innocent people.

19 posted on 08/22/2015 6:08:30 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Bullcrap. The premise is fatally flawed.

Caring about Ferguson as evidence of overzealous policing willfully ignores the hostile giant’s actions that day.

Utter bovine scatology.


20 posted on 08/22/2015 6:09:54 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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