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I want Trump to keep saying "I don't think they have American citizenship."

Don't switch to: "I don't think they should have American citizenship."

1 posted on 08/20/2015 12:01:48 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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Who here is for retroactively stripping away citizenship or is in favor of or supports saying that the children born to illegals never had citizenship in the first place?


2 posted on 08/20/2015 12:03:24 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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many thousands of people—some now adults—who have lived all their lives in America would suddenly find themselves stateless.

Nothing stateless about them. They're citizens or subjects of wherever they snuck in from. What's hard about that? They'll go back there with a boatload of skills, sophistication, and contacts here that will give them a huge advantage in their home country. I don't see what's not to like.

Okay, there's one thing. That scenario I just sketched probably applies to many of the gangsters as well.

3 posted on 08/20/2015 12:07:17 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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Should Trump keep saying this throughout the primaries - that which Hot Air (and that which is on Google News - Google the words “trump I don’t think children born here to illegals”) quotes him as saying?


4 posted on 08/20/2015 12:07:40 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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My question is what is he actually saying. I have heard him speak a couple of times and I have seen the typical news sound bites. I have yet to hear him say those already born in America are not citizens (or anything meaning that). I really don’t have any trust for the news outlets, even so-called conservative news outlets.


14 posted on 08/20/2015 12:13:16 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Do Not Vote for List: See my profile)
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Either/Or

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Either/Or


18 posted on 08/20/2015 12:17:59 PM PDT by Leep (Vote Bush! Join the Bush League! Why? Because we say so!)
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Congress has the authority to determine this, and, sadly, the law is that anchor babies are US Citizens.

Such is not, however, a requirement of the 14th Amendment.


19 posted on 08/20/2015 12:18:37 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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"Look Mommy, I inferred something all by myself!"
"That's so nice Dear! Here, time for your Ritalin."

20 posted on 08/20/2015 12:20:13 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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Trump is right.

O’Reilly is an idiot. oreilly@foxnews.com


23 posted on 08/20/2015 12:21:56 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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So, if a couple from anywhere outside the US buys tickets to visit the US, and the woman is pregnant and delivers in the US, the child is an American citizen? That’s ridiculous. If this is true, one could start a viable business of ‘pregnancy tourism’ for people who wanted their children to have automatic US citizenship.


24 posted on 08/20/2015 12:22:00 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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The amendment is quite clear as to “subject to the laws of the United States” which the illegals and their anchor babies are not.


26 posted on 08/20/2015 12:25:24 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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I want Trump to keep saying “I don’t think they have American citizenship.”


Me too.... but the idea came from Ted Cruz..
Good idea no matter the source..

Cruz has other good IDEAS TRUMP REJECTS....
Like making Crony Capitalism even more ILLEGAL...
Prosecuting THEM... sending them to the SLAMMER..

TRUMP will never go for THAT....
Cause the Cronys is WHY HE IS RUNNING in the first place..

you know. to PROTECT THEM FROM CRUZ...


27 posted on 08/20/2015 12:25:32 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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Children born to illegals are not citizens.

People who have been counted as citizens until now will probably not be denied it retroactively. But that shouldn’t prevent us from correcting a mistake moving forward.


29 posted on 08/20/2015 12:30:42 PM PDT by marron
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What he’s saying, in his own...folksy way, is that he thinks the Supremes will side with him in finding that birth right citizenship under the Constitution doesn’t apply to children of illegals.

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I wouldn’t count on it. The Roberts Court makes up its own laws and definitions as it wishes.


30 posted on 08/20/2015 12:32:28 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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Don't hold your breath. In a month's time Trump will be the most pro-illegal candidate of the bunch. He goes from supporting liberal Democrats to supporting conservatives whenever the wind blows.
33 posted on 08/20/2015 12:38:58 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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They clearly do have citizenship under the current Nationality Act. Whether the birthright citizenship provisions of that statute could be repealed without violating the 14th Amendment is debatable, but to say they “don’t have” citizenship is just plain wrong.


34 posted on 08/20/2015 12:42:29 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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The XIV Amendment did its job, namely, everyone born of a slave was a United States citizen.

Its as superflous as those parts of Article II regarding the election of the Vice President.

Time for it to go.

36 posted on 08/20/2015 1:11:52 PM PDT by Oratam
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GO TRUMP!!!!


37 posted on 08/20/2015 1:19:59 PM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Illegals didn';t bother me so much UNTIL they started bringing their kids and getting BILLIONS and BILLIONS in OUR TAX DOLLARS.....free education....free housing.....free health care.....free attorneys when they say they are broke and illegal!!!

And then they started flying the Mexican Flag at PROTESTS AGAINST US!!!! THAT DID IT!! ADIOS!!

38 posted on 08/20/2015 1:22:55 PM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

I’m having a hard time finding any way to interpret this other than anyone born in the US is a citizen. There is no wiggle room that I can find. I don’t like it, but if I try to interpret this, I’ll have to allow others to interpret the 2nd amendment as well.


44 posted on 08/20/2015 1:38:37 PM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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some now adults - who have lived all their lives in America would suddenly find themselves stateless.

That's the way the old illegal ball bounces.

50 posted on 08/20/2015 2:12:53 PM PDT by jetson
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