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Indictment of former House speaker Dennis Hastert
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Posted on 08/18/2015 10:02:47 PM PDT by Rabin

Federal prosecutors on Thursday indicted former House speaker J. Dennis Hastert on charges of purposefully withdrawing less than $10,000 in order to evade...

Violations: Title 18, United States Code, Section 1001(a)(2); Title 31, United States Code,Section 5324

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bank; dennishastert; hastert; indicted
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Den was an "wrestling coach", who morphed into a page grope & grab, poster boy faggot, multimillionaire, Republican Leader. Denny exemplifies corruption.

Cometh now the fed, to charge evasive use of private cap.

1 posted on 08/18/2015 10:02:48 PM PDT by Rabin
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To: Rabin

I don’t recognize a law that prevents me from transferring my money in specific amounts.


2 posted on 08/18/2015 10:06:22 PM PDT by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: Rabin

I’m not championing a blackmail paying pedophile over this issue.

Surely, we can find a better example.


3 posted on 08/18/2015 10:08:14 PM PDT by donna (Pray for Revival.)
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To: Crazieman

Same here. It is a morally reprehensible law and used daily to harass and/or destroy average Americans breaking no other laws.

At the very least, the amount should be adjusted for inflation, as should the AMT law dollar threshold. I think that would put it at around $100,000 today.


4 posted on 08/18/2015 10:08:50 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Rabin

Wonder how many of our problems come from a government infested with deviant perverts like Hastert, the toe tapper, and others? They don’t want what we do and work quietly against us.
And if they don’t the Democrats own them when they figure out what they’re into.

It’s a modern nest of vipers.


5 posted on 08/18/2015 10:09:05 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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Too bad he was criminally withdrawing his own money with an intent to avoid government tracking of his personal finances.

If he had only set up his own private email server to evade government oversight of his official government position while compromising national security... precedent suggests he'd be fine.

6 posted on 08/18/2015 10:10:15 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Rabin; Crazieman; donna; cuban leaf; DesertRhino; pgyanke
Wrong premise. It is our money and it is no one's business how we use it. The feds have made criminals of everyone in the country. There is nothing that cannot be used against you should the powers that be see fit to use. ENOUGH!
7 posted on 08/18/2015 10:19:49 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Crazieman

You were driving under the speed limit to avoid a ticket, you’re going to Prison!


8 posted on 08/18/2015 10:20:51 PM PDT by MaxMax (2008-Now, Obama's fault)
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To: cuban leaf
At the very least, the amount should be adjusted for inflation, as should the AMT law dollar threshold. I think that would put it at around $100,000 today.

Don't argue amounts or inflation adjustment. You're just playing into their hands. Arguing amounts implies you accept the principle.

Churchill: Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?

Hottie: My goodness, Mr. Churchill... Well, I suppose... we would have to discuss terms, of course...

Churchill: Would you sleep with me for five pounds?

Hottie: Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!

Churchill: Madam, we've already established that. Now we are haggling about the price.

9 posted on 08/18/2015 10:23:01 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: MaxMax

+1 this post


10 posted on 08/18/2015 10:25:22 PM PDT by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: Rabin

Wrong calendar dates. The indictment was back in May.


11 posted on 08/18/2015 10:25:47 PM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: cynwoody

Don’t argue amounts or inflation adjustment. You’re just playing into their hands. Arguing amounts implies you accept the principle.


Heh. I completely agree. I almost didn’t bother saying what you quoted, but I was trying to show the insidiousness of the whole thing in the first place.

Your response amplifies exactly what I was saying before the part you quoted.

Philosophically, we are in utter agreement.


12 posted on 08/18/2015 10:29:13 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Fungi

I completely agree. Please see my follow up post just before this one.


13 posted on 08/18/2015 10:30:00 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Fungi

And to amplify just a bit: I not only agree with you, but this issue is one of the few that really make my blood boil. And for the reasons you so succinctly mentioned.


14 posted on 08/18/2015 10:31:43 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: donna
Surely, we can find a better example.

Surely, the USG pigs can find a better law under which to charge Hastert.

If I were on the jury, the verdict would be NG or hung. Don't confuse me with the facts! My verdict would not be on the facts, but on the fact that the law is an ass!

15 posted on 08/18/2015 10:32:18 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Crazieman

Most people don’t have enough money to commit this crime or even to do it on accident. The only time most people get large amounts of cash is if they are purchasing something and the seller requires cash. They may deposit cash for the same reason. Now the reason this became law was to catch drug dealers and tax evaders. They deal in cash very frequently. I think it is a bad idea for many reasons. It makes a criminal out of a non criminal. It forces banks into the policing profession. Whatever gain is had is not worth it.

The only person in my lifetime that I have known who dealt mostly in cash was my grandfather. He died about 25 years ago so I’m talking about way before this law was on the books. So using my narrow example, he didn’t run his cash through banks. He kept it at his home. Me, if I had cash that close to me I would spend it.


16 posted on 08/18/2015 10:41:41 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: donna

Alleged blackmail paying pedophile. The thing is, yes he looks guilty. But there is a statute of limitations for a reason on the base charge. The reason for the cash limit law is to catch people evading taxes and participating in illegal activity such as drug sales. Dennis was not using the cash illegally. The blackmailer should be charged with the crime of blackmail. I don’t care if he was the victim years ago as a reason to not charge him. You don’t get to be a vigilante. He could have sought justice during the time allowed by law rather than resort to a criminal act to punish Hastert himself.

It is not that I think Hastert should not be charged with structuring. He knew it was illegal. it is just that I think the law is wrong and should be repealed. It is a nightmare for banks. If they fail to report they face big fines. It is too much of a burden to place on mere tellers.


17 posted on 08/18/2015 10:49:33 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Fungi

I know it’s the wrong premise . . . so find an example that doesn’t require being on the side of a pedophile.


18 posted on 08/18/2015 10:49:51 PM PDT by donna (Pray for Revival.)
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To: Rabin

Ain’t that amazing, no charges for the real crime. It’s gotten to the point where queer male teachers get about the same treatment as female teachers having hetero sex with students


19 posted on 08/18/2015 10:54:15 PM PDT by Figment
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I don't care about anything except not being require to be on an Alleged pedophile’s side.

See, forced to say Alleged! Not acceptable.

20 posted on 08/18/2015 10:55:09 PM PDT by donna (Pray for Revival.)
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