To: Tennessee Nana
A person born in the US and subject to the jurisdiction of the USI'm no lawyer. My take on that sentence is the same as yours. If a person is in the US illegally, they aren't subject to our laws. As far as other non-citizens in the US, I can't imagine why they can't sign something that acknowledges that the citizenship of any children they have is not US citizenship.
4 posted on
08/18/2015 12:13:17 PM PDT by
grania
To: grania
it is like child support. It is not the parent’s to waive.
I thought the text regarding the proof and age for obtaining citizenship before 24 was interesting. it neuters this Obama invasion effort.
7 posted on
08/18/2015 12:22:12 PM PDT by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: grania
I'm no lawyer. My take on that sentence is the same as yours. If a person is in the US illegally, they aren't subject to our laws. So if an illegal alien murders someone, we can't prosecute them?
The "subject to the jurisdiction" language excludes foreign diplomats, who have diplomatic immunity (even if they murder someone).
To: grania
I'm no lawyer. My take on that sentence is the same as yours. If a person is in the US illegally, they aren't subject to our laws.
That's a sticky subject. I agree that they are not "subject to the jurisdiction of the US", but they ARE subject to our laws. If someone is here illegally and they murder someone, they've committed a violation of TWO laws and should be held accountable for both. However, since they are not "subject to the jurisdiction of the US", they are not afforded the governmental protections provided by said government. They have no right of seeking justice through our laws. In other words, they can be held accountable to the laws that they break when they infringe on the protected rights of legal citizens, but cannot seek those legal privileges for themselves.
That's my $0.02, and I'm no lawyer neither.
11 posted on
08/18/2015 12:33:05 PM PDT by
Sopater
(Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
To: grania
If a person is in the US illegally, they aren't subject to our laws. Then they can't be arrested for breaking them?
To: grania; longtermmemmory
The issue of “subject to the laws of the US” deals with persons who are immune to US law, such as those holding diplomatic immunity.
A child born here to a mother and father who both hold diplomatic positions here as representatives of a foreign power is not a US citizen.
It is not about those in the country illegally.
23 posted on
08/18/2015 1:08:20 PM PDT by
Crystal Palace East
(Are Crybaby Conservatives, calling everyone else RINOs, really Dems trying to get you to not vote?)
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