Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Hillary Clinton's Email Company: No Evidence That Her Server Had A Backup
Breitbart.com ^ | 8-17-2015 | Patrick Howley

Posted on 08/17/2015 8:00:43 PM PDT by Eroteme

The company that stored Hillary Clinton’s private email server tells Breitbart News no backup of Clinton’s server has ever been known to exist.

“No data or backups have ever been known to exist or have ever been in the possession of Platte River Networks,” a representative for the company said in an interview.

(snip)

The company representative confirmed that Denver-based Platte River Networks was hired by the Clinton family in June 2013, five months after Clinton left the State Department, to secure the private email server that she used to conduct official government business. Platte River Networks was paid by the Clintons personally.

(snip)

Platte River Networks got the Clinton job by submitting a proposal to take over the server shortly after Clinton left the State Department. The Denver-based company beat out other competitor proposals. Though the company was not cleared to handle classified information, Platte River never saw verification that there was classified information on the server, and, after all, they were personally hired by the Clintons, according to the representative.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 201306; backups; emails; hillary; hillarycriminalprobe; hillaryemailserver; nongovemails; platteriver; platterivernetworks; prn; server
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-65 next last
To: doc1019

Criminals and politicians?


41 posted on 08/17/2015 10:27:11 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Osage Orange

Keep an eye out, Huma and the other staff woman are going to be holding the bag for stripping off the classification headers. Clintor the destroyer is gonna see them as a dangerous loose end that might sing if leaned on, so I bet they end up commiting arkancide...


42 posted on 08/17/2015 10:43:14 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Axenolith
Man, they sure are jumping on the “she didn't have a backup server” bandwagon aren't they! It almost sound like a issued talking point.
It almost makes one suspicious which country it's in; because any host backs-up everything regularly, as in scheduled, dedicated times etc.
43 posted on 08/17/2015 10:44:11 PM PDT by Redak
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Osage Orange
The Clinton's are and were so dirty...before they ever hit D.C.

And vice versa.

44 posted on 08/17/2015 10:45:27 PM PDT by Ken H
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Eroteme
The company went to Clinton’s home in Chappaqua, New York, picked the server up from her basement, and transported it to a different company’s data center in New Jersey. The data center was selected by Platte River, and not by the Clintons or by anyone at the State Department.

That appears to be Internap Network Services Co's New York Metro Data Center, located in Secaucus, New Jersey.

$ traceroute mail.clintonemail.com
traceroute to mail.clintonemail.com (64.94.172.146), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
[... snip ...]
 5  tengige0-6-0-1.gw5.nyc4.alter.net (152.63.17.58)  24.439 ms
    tengige0-7-0-7.gw5.nyc4.alter.net (152.63.22.122)  17.286 ms
    tengige0-7-0-4.gw5.nyc4.alter.net (152.63.17.110)  14.730 ms
 6  internap-gw.customer.alter.net (65.217.199.202)  14.669 ms  12.180 ms  12.405 ms
 7  border2.pc1-bbnet1.nyj001.pnap.net (216.52.95.10)  14.367 ms
    border2.pc2-bbnet2.nyj001.pnap.net (216.52.95.74)  12.166 ms
    border2.pc1-bbnet1.nyj001.pnap.net (216.52.95.10)  12.218 ms
 8  * * *
 9  * * *
10  *^C

In the above traceroute, the last server before the mute clinton box is border2.pc1-bbnet1.nyj001.pnap.net (216.52.95.10). In Internap's naming scheme, nyj001 denotes their New York Metro Data Center.

45 posted on 08/17/2015 10:57:42 PM PDT by cynwoody
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dontreadthis

So strange. And confusing. The server was at Bill’s office in Harlem. It was moved to the Chappaqua house. Hillary used it while SOS. When she left that job she had it wiped clean. Then the erased server is moved to New Jersey. Now the FBI have it. Is that about right?


46 posted on 08/17/2015 11:00:05 PM PDT by Rona Badger (Heeds the calling wind.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Eroteme

It’s the Clintons - parse the words. Ask the Platte people questions that nail them to the wall over backed up data. If they were asked to ‘secure’ HRC’s server and they did not start by backing it up, they should be out of business.


47 posted on 08/17/2015 11:02:39 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: doc1019

By saying this....they’ve ended any future big-time contracts. My guess is that it’ll fold in a matter of weeks and be bought by someone for fifty-percent of the value, then renamed.


48 posted on 08/17/2015 11:04:39 PM PDT by pepsionice
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: jonrick46

One of the company’s specialties is destroying data.


49 posted on 08/17/2015 11:10:12 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: I am Richard Brandon

We’re working uphill against the technology ignorance of journalists here.

Backing up a server is not part of security. It’s an administration/operations function. Security is going to be physical security plus network security. It probably does not include OS level security - that’s in the admin realm. If they were managing the server then the admin side would be included.

The question that needs to be asked is who was responsible for administering the server. That may or may not be Platte or the third party colocation company. My best guess is that Bryan Pagliano was the server administrator, and if so, the FBI needs to haul him in and seize his computers yesterday.

I’m trying to piece together the chain of events in some sensible way, but can’t get past the question of what exactly was co-located by Platte. An empty server? A new server without any of the old data? An existing server with data that was later wiped clean?


50 posted on 08/17/2015 11:21:12 PM PDT by Nep Nep
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: I am Richard Brandon
Ask the Platte people questions

Unless the FBI is wholly incompetent or utterly compromised, the first things they would ask the Platte people would be


51 posted on 08/17/2015 11:33:27 PM PDT by cynwoody
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: doc1019

OK let me try and clarify this as best I can.

“Securing a server” from the data center point of view means:

- Controlling physical access to the machine with access controlled doors and physical locks on the cabinet rack.

- Controlling network access to the machine via firewalls, limiting the types of requests that can be made to it, opening ports only for services the machine intends to provide over the network. In this case, SMTP inbound and outbound only from external networks. If doing the job right, shell access is through a VPN on the local network, so providing the VPN is part of network security.

Administration is a completely separate function. I’ve held the title of administrator on both government and corporate networks, large ones. This role is sometimes also called management.

Shell access (the ability to log into a machine) is on the border between security and administration. Who controls shell access depends on the context. In a large network, user identity management, using a central authentication mechanism such as Active Directory, is part of the security function. On a single-server setup as the Clinton machine is described to be, it is an administration function, and the security people probably can’t even log into the box.

Backups are part of administration. When backups are made to some physical media such as tapes or optical disks (e.g. DVDs, CDs), the physical security of that media is in the security realm, but the actual backup process itself is the administrator’s job, as is making sure the backup actually works.

Backups can ALSO be done offsite to a different server. In addition, any system important enough often has a COOP (Contingency Of OPerations) plan involving a failover server, which is typically clustered with the main server either on the operating system level or the application level. (IIRC this was an MSExchange mail system and at the time there was no workable MSExchange clustering available.)

To wrap this up, Platte is a red herring. They may not know anything at all. The administrator is what the focus needs to be on, and that appears to be Clinton’s campaign IT director who moved to State - that makes sense, given her demand for utter loyalty, she would have wanted only a picked man to have access. That man would be Bryan Pagliano.


52 posted on 08/17/2015 11:45:25 PM PDT by Nep Nep
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Nep Nep

Sorry forgot an important part of the conclusion.

Any admin worth their salt is not going to let a single-server configuration be at risk of a failed/bad tape/optical backup. They’re going to cluster it or at least back it up to a different server, and take the backups off the failover so it doesn’t affect the operations of the main server.

This implies the probable existence of a second server, possibly a cluster member, which, if it does in fact exist, should have a complete copy of everything.


53 posted on 08/17/2015 11:50:17 PM PDT by Nep Nep
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: jonrick46

“Does the FBI have advanced forensic techniques to read a scrubbed hard drive?”

My guess is that the next shoe to drop is that it isn’t the orig scrubbed drive. That thing went through an industrial shredder and now resides in a quarter panel of Chevey Volt,


54 posted on 08/18/2015 2:59:21 AM PDT by DAC21 (.z)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Eroteme

The thing that pisses me off is she keeps stating she never sent and email or received an email that had any classification listed on them.

Fine, but that doesn’t mean the emails sent or received isn’t classified. No one seems to talk about that. It’s the content of the email that can make it classified and the content drives the classification.

You could send a joke over any classified net and label it as SECRET/NOFORN but that doesn’t make it SECRET/NOFORN.


55 posted on 08/18/2015 3:11:16 AM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Eroteme
No data or backups have ever been known to exist or have ever been in the possession of Platte River Networks,” a representative for the company said in an interview.

Duh ! That's why you were hired.
56 posted on 08/18/2015 8:35:34 AM PDT by stylin19a (obama = Fredo Smart)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ken H
Ha!!

Right!!

57 posted on 08/18/2015 10:59:40 AM PDT by Osage Orange (What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: happyathome

Something doesn’t jive...Their lawyer said they migrated that data to a new server.


58 posted on 08/18/2015 11:02:35 AM PDT by shotgun
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Axenolith
We shall see..............

Killary will never see jail..that much I know.

59 posted on 08/18/2015 11:02:45 AM PDT by Osage Orange (What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Stand Watch Listen
SO CONGRESS...

WHAT WOULD YOU SAY YOU DO HERE?

Congress: "We have people skills, damn it!"

60 posted on 08/18/2015 11:10:22 AM PDT by thesharkboy (posting without reading the article since 1998)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-65 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson