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Trump vs the GOP?
August 16, 2014
| Jim Robinson
Posted on 08/16/2015 2:54:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
In response to George Will, Peter Wehner and the long list of GOPe pundits they reference who are trashing Trump today.
Trump wouldnt stand a chance to run for president as a Republican had the traitors in the GOP not screwed over the voters. We voted conservatives in to de-fund if not repeal Obamacare and to stop Obamas executive amnesty and to stop Obama and the democrats in general. What have they done? They screwed over the conservatives we voted in, declared war on the conservative voters, and gave Obama every damned thing he asked for.
Screw George Will! Screw Peter Wehner! Screw Bill Bennett, David Brooks, Mona Charen, Charles C.W. Cooke, Michael Gerson, Jonah Goldberg, Victor Davis Hanson, Charles Krauthammer, Matt Lewis, Rich Lowry, Michael Medved, Paul Mirengoff, Dana Perino, John Podhoretz, Karl Rove, Jennifer Rubin, Kevin Williamson and the entire lot of sniveling RINO wimps!!
You want to stop men like Trump? Then do your JOBS!!
Hint: Its not putting up amnesty pimps like Jeb Bush!!
Dole, McCain, Romney, Jeb Bush? Get frickin real!!
Either put up conservatives who love America, love liberty, respect the constitution, are willing to do the tough job of securing the nation while rolling back the excesses or you can kiss it off and the GOP can die and rot in hell!!
We want rebels who fight not wimps who cave and kiss the lefts ass.
This is war for the survival of America as a free nation and the left is winning it.
You refer to George Will, Karl Rove and Jennifer Rubin? Give me a freaking break!!
Screw the big government, cheap labor amnesty express GOPe ruling class RINOS!!
Trumple the corrupt, treasonous bastards!!
By the way, why are Jeb Bush and the other GOPe RINOs NOT running on a platform similar to Trump's, ie, to secure the borders, reform the tax system so we can fill out our tax returns on a postcard, cut the taxes so the rate on most working families will be 10% or less, cut the corporate tax to zero (we the consumers pay that tax anyway), cut the regulations, get rid of the EPA, cut the spending, cut the bureaucracy, cut the government, cut the debt, cut the crap, make our government smaller but sharper and smarter, deport the illegals and their anchor babies, strengthen the military, bring capital and jobs back to America and make America great again?
Trump is sounding more like a Republican every day while Jeb Bush et al are sounding more like democrats.
TOPICS: FReeper Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; deep6rinos; gop; gope; nomorerinos; trump; trumple
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To: Jim Robinson
Trump v Yeb! v CommieDem.
I vote Trump in a heartbeat.
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posted on
08/16/2015 2:55:12 PM PDT
by
Crazieman
(Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
To: Jim Robinson
George Will is a DemocRAT who got SO OFFENDED by the DemocRATS, that he couldn't tolerate being associated with all those "CRAZIES" .
Now for a deeper understanding of just WHO George Will IS:
The word "neocons" is ONLY used by LIBERALS, trying to insult Conservatives.
The is no such thing as a "NEW" Conservative.
Conservatives ARE Conservative, plain and simple.
But read this"Liberals, Conservatives, and Neocons Learn the Difference!
March 12, 2014
Almost everybody is confused about the word "neoconservative" and its shortened form, "neocon."
I find that liberals/Democrats seem to use it as a sort of disrespectful form of "conservative,"and probably have no idea the the words have distinct meanings.
On the other hand, I know of some conservatives who define it as "new conservatives,"meaning people who were formerly something else, but have converted to conservatism.
Both are wrong.
As near as I can tell, "neo-" doesn't apply to any other word that way formerly not X, but having become X.
No, "neo-" almost always refers to an ideology that is different from the root word in a significant way.Neoconfederates are not people who want to secede and become a separate country.
They want the ideals of the Confederacy to be applied to modern politics, more or less, but not all of them.
Neoliberal is a more vague term,but it specifically applies to people who may have SOME of the attributes of liberals,
but who contradict liberalism in their advocacy of free trade and privatization
and other ideas usually thought of as conservative.
And, finally, neoconservatives are mostly those moderate cold war LIBERALS who defected to the Republican party when the Democrats got totally flaky with McGovern and his ilk.
Their ultimate origin, however, is not the Democratic party but the Trotskyite movement.
Jack Kerwick elaborates.
Read this: Most "Conservatives" Are Secretly Neoconservatives
12 March, 2014, by Jack Kerwick, Ph.D.
A colleague of mine has drawn my attention to a Washington Post blog post Why Most Conservatives Are Secretly Liberals by a Professor John Sides, a political scientist at Georgetown University.
Sides agrees with fellow political scientists Christopher Ellis and James Stimson, co-authors of Ideology in America.
Ellis and Stimson CONTEND thatAmerica is, at bottom, a center-left nation,
for while 30 percent of self-described liberals are consistent in endorsing liberal policy prescriptions,
the same sort of consistency can be ascribed to only 15 percent of conservatives.
And another 30 percent of conservatives actually advance liberal positions.
In short, Americans may TALK the talk of conservatism, but they WALK the walk of liberalism.
That is, they favor Big Government.
Sides, Ellis, and Stimson, it seems clear to me, are liberals.
It doesnt require much reading between the lines to discern this.
That they associate liberals, and liberals ALONE, with such virtues as consistency and such lofty ideals as a cleaner environment and a stronger safety net is enough to bear this out.
Yet in peddling the ridiculous, patently absurd notion thatconservatives see the media as PROMOTING conservatism,
the verdict regarding their liberalism is seen for the NO-BRAINER that it is.
There is, though, another CLUE that unveils Sides, Ellis, and Stimsons ideological PREJUDICES:They equate the term liberalism with a robust affirmation of Big Government.
They treat liberalism synonymously with its modern, Welfare-Statist incarnation.
There is no mention here of the fact that, originally, liberalism referred toa vision that attached supreme value to individual liberty,
a vision in which government played, and had to play, a minimal role in the lives of its citizens.
And there is no mention of the fact that, if liberalism is now an ugly word,
it is because the very same socialists who made socialism an ugly word hijacked liberalism when it enjoyed a favorable reception
and visited upon it the same fate that they secured for socialism.
In other words, if Sides himself wanted to be bluntly honest, hed have to admit that liberals are secretly socialists.
Still, though their premises are bogus, Sides and his colleagues draw the correct conclusion thatmost conservatives are NOTHING OF THE KIND.
The truth of the matter is thatthe vast majority of contemporary conservatives are neoconservatives.
Now, neoconservatism is a term that hasnt the best reputation.
It has ALWAYS BEEN CONTROVERSIAL,
and most of its proponents have DISAVOWED IT to the point of, preposterously, condemning it as an anti-Semitic SLUR.
But George W. Bush and his party inflicted potentially irrevocable damage upon the label.
Conservatism is a more marketable label.
Nevertheless, the reality is that neoconservatism is indeed a distinct school of political thought.
Beyond this, it is fundamentally different in kind from classical conservatism.
Irving Kristol, the so-called Godfather of neoconservatism, an appellation that he readily endorsed, ADMITS this in noting boththat neoconservatism exists
and that conservative can be misleading when used to describe it.
Neoconservatism, you see, is THE INVENTION OF LEFTISTS like Kristol himself.
When the Democratic Party began veering too far to the Left in the 1960s, Kristol and more moderate leftists began turning toward the Republican Party.
So as TO DISTINGUISH THEMSELVES FROM traditional conservatives, they coined the term neoconservatism.
Neoconservatives, Kristol asserts, are not at all hostile to the idea of a welfare state even if they reject the vast and energetic bureaucracies created by the Great Society.
Neoconservatives ENDORSE social security, unemployment insurance, and some kind of family assistance plan, among other measures.
But whats most interesting, particularly at a time when ObamaCare has DIVIDED the country, is that Kristol reminds us thatneoconservatives SUPPORT some form of national health insurance.
In all truthfulness, however, neither a degree in political science nor an IQ above four is required to know thatneoconservatism has always championed Big Government
for it is its foreign policy vision more than anything else that distinguishes it from its competitors.
For neoconservatives, America is exceptional in being, as Kristol puts it, a creedal nation,the only nation in all of human history to have been founded upon an ideology of equality, of natural rights.
The U.S.A., then, has a responsibility to promote this ideology throughout the world.
And it is by way of a potentially boundless military i.e. Big Government that this ideological patriotism is to be executed.
Had the foregoing political scientists been looking in the right places, they would BE FORCED TO CONCLUDE that most conservatives are secretly neoconservatives.
So, you see that those WHO THEY CALL "neoconservatives", are really nothing more than the old moderate side of the DemocRATS.
It's just THAT SIMPLE .
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posted on
08/16/2015 2:55:18 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Jim Robinson
The GOP-E butt hurt is flowing in epic proportions.
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posted on
08/16/2015 2:56:46 PM PDT
by
Red Steel
(Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
To: Jim Robinson
To: Jim Robinson
BRAVO, right on, GO JIM, GO !
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posted on
08/16/2015 2:57:52 PM PDT
by
nopardons
To: Jim Robinson
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posted on
08/16/2015 2:58:53 PM PDT
by
ConservativeInPA
(Do Not Vote for List: See my profile)
To: Jim Robinson
Well.. I guess Jim is entitled to a thread once in a while since he owns the joint.
We agree, forward with the destruction of impediments.
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posted on
08/16/2015 2:59:12 PM PDT
by
humblegunner
(NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
To: Jim Robinson; LS
Jim look at LS thread on selection of delegates. It would not surprise me if the powers who want to keep that power would try to steal the nomination. We need to be prepared
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posted on
08/16/2015 2:59:48 PM PDT
by
hoosiermama
(psalm 150;3 Praise him with the sound of the)
To: Jim Robinson
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posted on
08/16/2015 3:01:33 PM PDT
by
Bobalu
(If we live to see 2017 we will be kissing the ground)
To: hoosiermama
Keep your pitchfork and torch handy.
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posted on
08/16/2015 3:01:41 PM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
To: Jim Robinson
Do you think “turle face” Mitch Mcdumbo and John “orange man” Bonehead Boehner are listening? When I call their offices in Washington, you cannot leave a message as their machines are often “full” so I am told.You would think they check their offices once in a while????
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posted on
08/16/2015 3:01:52 PM PDT
by
Fungi
To: Jim Robinson
Amen, brother Jim.
We need to add that fat faced fraud, Erick Erickson you the list, as well!
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posted on
08/16/2015 3:02:33 PM PDT
by
tennmountainman
("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
To: tennmountainman
And add to the list of Amnesty pimps Rubio and lindsey Graham and Christie
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posted on
08/16/2015 3:04:24 PM PDT
by
Democrat_media
(obamatrade "trade in services" = mega more 3rd world socialist immigrants to USA)
To: Jim Robinson
In my best Limbaugh voice... 'Right on, right on, right on...'
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posted on
08/16/2015 3:04:35 PM PDT
by
nhwingut
(Trump-Cruz 2016 - Blow Up The GOPe)
To: Jim Robinson
Yes......!!!!!
Bookmarked!
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posted on
08/16/2015 3:05:20 PM PDT
by
goodnesswins
(hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
To: Jim Robinson
Trump is sounding more like a Republican every day while Jeb Bush et al are sounding more like democrats.
This is exactly what I’ve been trying to tell the naysayers who want to point to Trump’s past positions. If Bush gave us Obama - then Boehner and McConnell and all the RINOs are giving us Trump. Great analysis, Jim.
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posted on
08/16/2015 3:05:32 PM PDT
by
Catsrus
(M)
To: Jim Robinson
Well done! My thoughts exactly!
To: Jim Robinson
Jim Robinson, that is very good write-up! It covers all the points and all prescient issues. Bookmarking..
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posted on
08/16/2015 3:08:13 PM PDT
by
entropy12
(You always vote for the rich donors of candidates, not the candidate himself. Except Trump.)
To: Jim Robinson
Indeed.
In both 2010 and 2014, We The People told Washington what we wanted.
They just ignored us.
My personal favorite is still Ted Cruz, but Trump says things that NEED to be said.
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posted on
08/16/2015 3:09:30 PM PDT
by
left that other site
(You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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