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Could black people in the U.S. qualify as refugees?
The Washington Post ^ | August 14, 2015 | Raha Jorjani, immigration defense lawyer, Office of the Alameda County Public Defender

Posted on 08/15/2015 9:41:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Suppose a client walked into my office and told me that police officers in his country had choked a man to death over a petty crime. Suppose he said police fatally shot another man in the back as he ran away. That they arrested a woman during a traffic stop and placed her in jail, where she died three days later. That a 12-year-old boy in his country was shot and killed by the police as he played in the park.

Suppose he told me that all of those victims were from the same ethnic community — a community whose members fear being harmed, tortured or killed by police or prison guards. And that this is true in cities and towns across his nation. At that point, as an immigration lawyer, I’d tell him he had a strong claim for asylum protection under U.S. law.

What if, next, he told me he was from America? Black people in the United States face such racial violence that they could qualify as refugees.

Over the past decade, I’ve represented and advised hundreds of noncitizens facing deportation. Many feared persecution in their home countries and sought protection in the United States....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; asylum; blacks; disbar; immigration; racism; rahajorjani; shysters
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

#StopBlackViolence


21 posted on 08/15/2015 11:18:46 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We have lots of container ships that could make short work of this problem the way Lincoln suggested, and be done with it.

It is obvious there is no living together possible, so send them back, free of charge.

22 posted on 08/15/2015 11:31:00 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I love these :)


23 posted on 08/15/2015 11:52:33 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The tme for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: A CA Guy

Marcus Garvey and friends. We have lots of schools named after him.


24 posted on 08/16/2015 12:09:12 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: dsrtsage

Another ambulance-chasing parasite chasing the quick buck. Be caeful what you wish for. As refugees, they can’t vote. They won’t get a lot of freebies that are for citizens. The criminals would be deported.


25 posted on 08/16/2015 1:49:05 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Suppose black people in this country were treated like white bikers in Waco...


26 posted on 08/16/2015 2:15:50 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: NTHockey

Be caeful what you wish for. As refugees, they can’t vote. They won’t get a lot of freebies that are for citizens.
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They do get freebies!

Refugee Resettlement Fact Sheet

https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/refugee-resettlement-fact-sheets/

#16 on the list
Refugee access to welfare on the same basis as a U.S. citizen has made the program a global magnet.

The federal programs available to them include:

Food stamps, SSI, Housing assistance, Medicaid & more


27 posted on 08/16/2015 3:56:02 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds good to me! Let’s ship every damned one of them to South Africa and Zimbabwe.


28 posted on 08/16/2015 3:56:37 AM PDT by Zippo44 (Liberal: another word for poltroon.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It depends, if Trump deports this will go away, if the rats make progress they will consider it reparations on a grand scale shift all American tax payer monies directly to the poor minority bank accounts and we have equality


29 posted on 08/16/2015 4:01:32 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Black Americans should not have to flee this country to seek refuge.

I agree.. they'd just have to flee HIGH-CRIME areas many of them created all by themselves.

But back to the question in the headline.

Yes most would qualify.. but if restrictions are enforced as they are supposed to be a lot of Americans black and white would be denied entry to America.

See for yourself. U.S. Department of Justice crimes rates by race.

Go here http://www.bjs.gov/

From the Data Analysis Tools dropdown menu (do not click) select

I chose Trend Tables by Race and selected the items I wanted on the table.

U.S. Arrest Estimates

Arrest Rates of Blacks

Offense 2009 2010 2011 2012
Murder and Non-Negligent Manslaughter 14.8 12.9 12.5 12.8
Population 41,009,869 42,195,018 42,689,217 43,198,670

Arrest Rates of Whites

Offense 2009 2010 2011 2012
Murder and Non-Negligent Manslaughter 2.5 2.3 2.1 2.1
Population 246,622,506 245,747,686 246,957,553 248,166,287

Arrest Rates of Blacks

Offense 2009 2010 2011 2012
Forcible Rape 16.4 14.9 14.5 13.6
Population 41,009,869 42,195,018 42,689,217 43,198,670

Arrest Rates of Whites

Offense 2009 2010 2011 2012
Forcible Rape 5.7 5.4 5.2 4.7
Population 246,622,506 245,747,686 246,957,553 248,166,287

These are only two pf the several crime categories available

See supporting Dept. of Justice crime stats here Federal crime statistics are a rebuttal to the race-grievance industry lies

And then there's the matter of belonging to incendiary groups. Would some members of Black Lives Matter be allowed in?

If Black Lives Matter truly was about correcting a problem the U.S. Department of Justice crimes rates by race show where to start.

BLM brings back memories of 1960s street mobs along with campus radical, psycho spoiled brats many of whom along with their ideological litters are now the Establishment.

It's their tactic:

mau-mauing.

meaning.. "to intimidate by hostile confrontation or threats"

See "Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers" by Tom Wolfe

So "Black Lives Matter" merely means black lives mau-mauing --
until all lives matter including babies' lives.

30 posted on 08/16/2015 4:21:05 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Refugees to where? If it’s to help them emigrate to Africa, the Middle East or somewhere, I’m all for that.


31 posted on 08/16/2015 4:42:28 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: BunnySlippers

Exactly. I am going from exasperated to extremely angry that the stats regarding black on white violent crime are being ignored, if anyone would need in-country asylum, it would be whites, but as usual, we try to do it ourselves sans government through white flight, but the “oppressed” want Uncle Sugar (you and me) to subsidise their subsequent chase of their “oppressors”. This is lunacy, and we are living in the lunatic’s nightmare.


32 posted on 08/16/2015 4:56:47 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, I suppose so- if they row homemade or stolen boats to Cuba.


33 posted on 08/16/2015 5:05:16 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I know the phrase ‘on balance’ is totally foreign to the liberal/progressive, but let’s stack up the above examples against black-on-white crime and see who has the longest list.


34 posted on 08/16/2015 5:13:54 AM PDT by tbpiper
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RE: compare article's "examples against black-on-white crime and see who has the longest list."

Given that whites outnumber blacks by at least six-to-one I think it's accurate to say black-on-white crime greatly exceeds white-on-black crime. The rates listed above show a mush higher rate of violent crime for blacks than whites -- but there is no mention of interracial crime.

As for actual interracial crime. The only federal government sources that I know of are

FBI Uniform Crime Reports, Expanded Offense Data, Expanded Homicide Data Tables, Table 6 and

the National Criminal Victimization Survey (NCVS) Table 42. emphasis on SURVEY it is not police reports.

Both are shown here along with links to the source. Hover the columns and headers for descriptions.

However it appears that the National Criminal Victimization Survey format changed in 2009 and Table 42 (interracial crime stats) are no longer public as they were in the 1993 - 2008 NCVS pdf files that I show at the link above.

IMO it simply means that the Obama-Holder Dept. of JustUs and the race-grievance industry do not want data made public that prove they are lying most of the time. However DoJ has a new online tool but I cannot find Table 42-type data there either.

35 posted on 08/16/2015 5:57:40 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Choked over a petty crime? How about subdued after resisting arrest? I hate journalists.


36 posted on 08/16/2015 6:01:08 AM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Gaffer

They can offer me all the money in the world, I will never live in that $hit hole, the ghetto rats and the idiots can go, I have no use for them. In honesty I had family who went to that side of the world serving in the military and the one thing one family member said to me and I will remember it till the day I die is to thank god you are an American, and he was right. I live in a state that is 96% white and I am not oppressed and if this was such an oppressive nation why do millions of illegals, Chinese, eastern Europeans, Arab and black Africans want to come here, does not make sense right?


37 posted on 08/16/2015 6:04:33 AM PDT by the_individual2014
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To: the_individual2014

I can’t think of anywhere in this world where people, even in this oppressive and controlling government today, could have more freedom.

We have so, so many lawyers - everyone of them trying to get rich off victimhood in some manner. Often times they foment the ideas, the restlessness and the eventual outcry for ‘justice’ many people unaccustomed to standing on one’s own merits. It’s no different in this particular case.


38 posted on 08/16/2015 6:17:05 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

And on another note I forgot to mention I have family that live in the country side owning land and property and one who is moving to Texas to take a job, maybe they see the writing on the wall, but I just believe it is becoming hopeless and god forbid Hispanics take over the US and if they have not gotten their head out of their ass then and are still blaming whitey, then god help them, for I do not know who will.


39 posted on 08/16/2015 6:18:57 AM PDT by the_individual2014
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To: the_individual2014

I live in a county in Georgia that is 96% white, 12% black and 3% other as of the 2010 Census. That 3% is Hispanic - illegals mostly.

This country will be majority Hispanic within the next generation if we do not substantively deal with the illegals in this country. That’s a fact.


40 posted on 08/16/2015 6:22:06 AM PDT by Gaffer
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