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How Far Can I Go? And How Much Can I Do?
China Digital Times ^ | 8/15/15 | He Xiaoxin

Posted on 08/15/2015 7:35:31 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: wideminded
This guy’s writing is very pleasant to read.

It's a nice site as well. Loads quickly and not overloaded with ads.

41 posted on 08/15/2015 8:53:41 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: wideminded
This guy’s writing is very pleasant to read.

It's a nice site as well. Loads quickly and not overloaded with ads.

42 posted on 08/15/2015 8:53:42 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: wideminded
I suppose the molten metal around the cars must be aluminum. It melts at 1221 F.

Or body seam filler, of a tin solder alloy. I have some for doing body panel work, it's a non-lead substitute that melts at half that of aluminum, maybe around 600 F. Hit it with a butane or propane torch and it easily flows into puddles like that in the picture. But those pictures show evidence that those cars experienced extremely hot temperatures that could easily melt aluminum as you say. Interesting to see the tire steel strands left over after the rubber tires vaporized.

43 posted on 08/15/2015 9:00:06 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Texas Eagle

As I’ve been saying from the beginning, my impression of Chinese cities is that a hand grenade could easily kill or injure 50. This was an explosion in the kilotons of TNT equivalent range, with quite a few residential structures in too-close proximity.

I doubt we’ll ever know anything like a true estimate of the casualties. There are almost certainly so many lies and obfuscations surrounding this, that a reasonably true estimate is unknowable.


44 posted on 08/15/2015 9:03:21 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Kartographer; chinaboy

Chinaboy,

Can you access this?

Do you have any more information?


45 posted on 08/15/2015 9:03:53 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Texas Eagle

Interesting you say that. When I saw this pic, I said it looked like something from a post-apocalyptic movie:

http://i.imgur.com/qc7FPxa.jpg

Nice new lake.


46 posted on 08/15/2015 9:08:49 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Kartographer

Amazing.


47 posted on 08/15/2015 9:08:55 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Dear Jeb Bush..... Trump upped his game. Up yours!.... Love, Laz.)
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To: roadcat

Looks like melted solder I scrape up from beneath my workstation but I think it’s the alloy car wheels.


48 posted on 08/15/2015 9:11:53 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: metmom

http://rense.com/general5/blast.htm

There was a similar blast in 1944 in the SF Bay Area, near Richmond at Port Chicago. It was equivalent to a small nuclear blast, obliterating everything in the area including much of the nearby town. 320 sailors on two ships at dock were killed, with only 50 sailors remains identified; the rest was obliterated. The blast was attributed to careless handling of munitions. However, some (as in this link) think it may have actually been a nuclear blast. Article goes on to say the U.S. military had 74kg of U-235 as of late 1943, enough for 5 bombs. 15.5kg was required for the Hiroshima bomb. Specs for the bomb were completed in early 1944 and three bombs were ordered made in March 1944. This info was declassified recently. Whether a Hiroshima type bomb was being transported by ship from Port Chicago is anyones guess, even more unlikely that one detonated. Anyway, the Port Chicago blast was horrific!


49 posted on 08/15/2015 9:25:41 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: steve86
Looks like melted solder I scrape up from beneath my workstation but I think it’s the alloy car wheels.

You're probably right. It's right next to the wheel in the picture.

50 posted on 08/15/2015 9:26:58 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat; steve86

Saw a car transmission melt like that.
It was weird.


51 posted on 08/15/2015 9:39:04 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Carl Vehse

That is a key question.

This is almost like a covert act of warfare.

What is going on? I note that the disappearance of MH370 is still a mystery, and that plane was on its way to Beijing, with many Chinese on board.


52 posted on 08/15/2015 9:42:26 PM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: roadcat
Whether a Hiroshima type bomb was being transported by ship from Port Chicago is anyones guess

1. The first test of an atomic bomb was almost exactly a year after the Port Chicago explosion. Of course that was the more complex implosion type bomb. But if they had had any type of atomic weapons ready a year earlier, don't you think they would have been used to end the war?

2. From your link: "According to the US Department of Energy Oak Ridge records, 74 kilograms of U-235 was available by December 1943, 93 kg by December 1944 and 289 kg by December 1945."

I see two problems with this: 1. If they already had 74 kg by the end of 1943, it does not make sense that they only produced another 19 kg in the following year. 2. According to Wikipedia, there were only 50 kg available by July 1945 and it was all used in the Hiroshima bomb.

3. Interviews with Port Chicago survivors

53 posted on 08/15/2015 10:02:23 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Carl Vehse
The unanswered question is what blew up

As far as I can tell, everything blew up Even the stuff that wasn't flammable blew up when they sprayed water on it.

Calcium Carbide and water make Acetylene Gas.

If one reads the whole article, the author states that there were explosions each time the fire men sprayed water on the fire.

Apparently there are still some chemicals there (like Calcium Carbide or sodium) , even after the giant explosion and fire.

54 posted on 08/15/2015 10:10:59 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: wideminded

You might be right, but I’ve never seen melted aluminum yhat looked like that.

It looks like lead. What they used to cover seems in body welds.

Also lead from the batteries. There is something like 20 lbs of lead in a car battery.


55 posted on 08/15/2015 10:14:35 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
The nitrates are just oxidizers, there has to be something combustible

Remember, there was a big fire and the firemen were on scene spraying water on the fire. Then the two minor explosions, followed by the huge explosion. It has already been said (in other articles) that the firemen should not have been using water on that fire.

Calcium carbide, Sodium do not go well with water.

56 posted on 08/15/2015 10:19:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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57 posted on 08/15/2015 10:23:42 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

I remember my BIG BOOM carbide cannon well.


58 posted on 08/15/2015 10:28:37 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: UCANSEE2
but I’ve never seen melted aluminum yhat looked like that.

What does melted aluminum usually look like?

Here are photos I found:


59 posted on 08/15/2015 10:31:48 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Kartographer

Amazing stuff, Kart.

Thanks for posting it.


60 posted on 08/15/2015 10:39:37 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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