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To: roadcat
Whether a Hiroshima type bomb was being transported by ship from Port Chicago is anyones guess

1. The first test of an atomic bomb was almost exactly a year after the Port Chicago explosion. Of course that was the more complex implosion type bomb. But if they had had any type of atomic weapons ready a year earlier, don't you think they would have been used to end the war?

2. From your link: "According to the US Department of Energy Oak Ridge records, 74 kilograms of U-235 was available by December 1943, 93 kg by December 1944 and 289 kg by December 1945."

I see two problems with this: 1. If they already had 74 kg by the end of 1943, it does not make sense that they only produced another 19 kg in the following year. 2. According to Wikipedia, there were only 50 kg available by July 1945 and it was all used in the Hiroshima bomb.

3. Interviews with Port Chicago survivors

53 posted on 08/15/2015 10:02:23 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded
1. The first test of an atomic bomb was almost exactly a year after the Port Chicago explosion. Of course that was the more complex implosion type bomb. But if they had had any type of atomic weapons ready a year earlier, don't you think they would have been used to end the war?

But that is what the article at rense.com is implying. That of the two ships at the dock, the Quinault Victory was loaded with a U-235 bomb intended for use against Japan in 1944. Records show that the destination was Tinian, the same island that the Hiroshima bomb was sent to a year later in 1945. Read all the text to the end for corroborating information.

2. From your link: "According to the US Department of Energy Oak Ridge records, 74 kilograms of U-235 was available by December 1943, 93 kg by December 1944 and 289 kg by December 1945."
I see two problems with this: 1. If they already had 74 kg by the end of 1943, it does not make sense that they only produced another 19 kg in the following year. 2. According to Wikipedia, there were only 50 kg available by July 1945 and it was all used in the Hiroshima bomb.

You surely can't believe Wikipedia versus recently declassified documents stating facts. Regardless of how much U-235 was produced, they actually had enough by July 1944 to make 6 minimum yield nuclear bombs, as 15.5kg was the minimum required for one bomb. The actual Hiroshima bomb was of a much higher yield, I believe about 60kg was used (according to government documents, 289kg available in late 1945).

Whether or not it is believed to be a nuclear blast at Port Chicago in 1944, you have to wonder about the blast yield being far in excess of the ordnance stored in the ships and dock. Or that it formed a crater on the seabed far larger than that of the ordnance but matching the characteristics of a nuclear underwater blast. Or that the cruiser Indianapolis shipped out of Port Chicago in 1945 under similar circustances to the Quinault Victory in 1944. Both loaded with two mysterious boxcars and nothing else, destined for Tinian. However, the Indianapolis made it to Tinian (but was sunk just after delivery), and the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima. I don't know what to believe, but the evidence is very suspicious.

63 posted on 08/15/2015 10:54:17 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: wideminded

Similar to the Great Texas City Explosion from the SS Grandcamp circa 1947.


75 posted on 08/16/2015 1:11:10 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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