Who gives a crap?
Until we stop the murder and part sale of human babies any moron who wastes time on something as relatively inconsequential deserves mockery, and nothing else.
And make no mistake, there is the only class of human being (other than the aforementioned morons) wasting time on this issue at this point are the twisted and evil.
I do. You either value life or don’t. Even the lives tat must be taken as food.
Your comment in post #2 has got to be one of the stupidest things I have ever seen anyone say on this forum.
I oppose secular humanist attempts to make animals persons and to grant them rights as such. I was on a liberal site recently discussing that with some liberals who support animal rights.
But I believe that the Bible shows us another side, too. It does speak of how we should regard and treat animals - though, in keeping that God does not regard animal life to be comparable to life made in His own image, any discussion of animals is given in the context of the worth of humans.
One verse like this is Proverbs 12:10:
A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.
This is a revelation on how we are to treat animals, but it is given in the context of comparing the righteous person to the wicked. It actually does not speak directly or foremost about animals yet I believe in it that God is saying were to have regard for the lives of the animals in our care. That seems to be in keeping with all of His Word. Only people are made in His image, and Gods giving of His Son in order to offer salvation is for mankind only. Yet, Scripture shows that God has regard for the lives of animals, and we should too. The regard ends when their lives might be valued over the lives of human beings.
I believe God has regard for animal life in some way for its own sake. They are His creation, part of what He called very good, and He has given them all the qualities they have, including some awareness. Yet again, they were not created in His image, and another part of His regard for animals must be for our sake. God seems to have made them for us, and to have made them to have some qualities at least partly in common with us. We are to have dominion over them, and after the Fall of man they became food for us, but also, as Proverbs 12:10 says, were to have regard for their lives. That would mean not neglecting them when theyre in our care, and not needlessly inflicting pain and torment on them. While over-valuing them as secular humanists want us to do is a sin and leads to the devaluing of human life, so can under-valuing them as well. Inflicting cruelty on beings we know can feel pain says something about people who do that. I dont read secular fiction now, but something I read years ago in J.D. Salingers Franny and Zooey about animals has stayed with me. Salinger seemed to embrace some form of New Age, one-world religion, and in Franny and Zooey he talked a lot about Christ and Eastern religions. On animals, he had a character say that there was no true, but only an apparent, difference between animals and stones. That idea seemed to come from his interest in Eastern religions. I recall in recent years China was caught on tape treating dogs and cats brutally, so that their fur could be used as fake fur on apparel products sold to Western nations. Brutal treatment of animals, including animals used for food, cant be good for us, especially spiritually. The people keeping the animals, including the people doing the actual physical mistreatment, are harmed spiritually, and so are we if we dont care about the abuse theyre committing. Then you also have to wonder about the quality of the meat were getting. If animals experience a lot of stress, and stress has physiological effects on the body, what might that do to the meat? We really are what we eat. When pro fit is put over doing whats right, how can God reward that?
I also believe that if we show an interest and concern for animals, and tell people that it is Gods will for us to have regard for the lives of our animals, as long as it doesnt go too far, that will make sense to many people about Gods nature, and can be a way to turn their consideration to the lives of unborn children taken by abortion.
Who gives a crap?
Until we stop the murder and part sale of human babies any moron who wastes time on something as relatively inconsequential deserves mockery, and nothing else.
And make no mistake, there is the only class of human being (other than the aforementioned morons) wasting time on this issue at this point are the twisted and evil.
DRINK!