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To: Jacquerie
To that end, the Framers provided for the peaceful means to do so via Article V.

True indeed. The people also have the right to pick their representatives at both the State and the Federal level. Are you suggesting that the States are inherently less corrupted by public education? Hmm? Those are the people we have now to manage said Article V convention, with the exclusive option that they are restricted to whatever terms upon which 3/4 of the States will agree. That list includes Massachusetts, New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, California, Illinois, Oregon, Washington, Vermont, and Hawaii. That's thirteen. Any amendments proposed MUST include the approval of one or more of those States. So, are you suggesting a closed Article V convention producing a "take-it-or-leave-it" deal (similar to what the Constitution was in the first place, complete with its critical flaws), would produce an output superior to a 2/3 vote of both houses in full view of the public and the same list of States proposing amendments one-at-a-time?

I don't. I prefer the traditional route and have a few critically important Amendments in mind that would be hard for any politician to oppose.

39 posted on 08/02/2015 10:18:58 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Donald Trump is Ross Perot, with hair.)
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To: Carry_Okie
You demand guarantees.

I offer none other than that men will sit down sometime in the future to reframe our government.

The sole question is whether they will do so as equals, as state delegates in a calm setting, or be commanded to do so with a bayonet pointed at their chests.

44 posted on 08/02/2015 12:41:06 PM PDT by Jacquerie ( Article V before we can't.)
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