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There is a new world order of elites, billionaires, religious leaders, politicians, and governments coming together in order to extinguish free markets and "save the planet". What do these people mean by saving the planet? Bill Gates may have said it best in his formula for tracking CO2 emissions:

CO2 = P x S x E x C.

P = People
S = Services per person
E = Energy per service
C = CO2 per energy unit

Then he adds that in order to get CO2 to zero, "probably one of these numbers is going to have to get pretty close to zero." Following that, Bill Gates begins to describe how the first number -- P (for People) -- might be reduced. He says:

"The world today has 6.8 billion people... that's headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent." You can watch this yourself at: Bill Gates discussing plans for planetary depopulation at TED Conference.

It was God Himself who made a covenant with man in Genesis 1 and 9 for a husband and wife to procreate and multiple on the face of the earth. Now the Pope, Bill Gates, and the elites of the earth have a new plan; reduce the earth's population by 90%.

This plan is not new. Since 1977 when Obama's current Science Czar, John Holdren, wrote his Malthusian doomsday book entitled, "Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment", leftists have been advocating for Chinese style birth control where if a woman has more than one child, she is forced to have an abortion of any additional children.

It is this sin and the sins of abortion and homosexuality that are bringing about a world-wide judgment from God on sinful men who disregard his covenants of love and are seeking to build a Godless utopia "east of Eden"...

Isaiah 24:1 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty , and maketh it waste , and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof. 2 And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer , so with the seller ; as with the lender , so with the borrower ; as with the taker of usury , so with the giver of usury to him. 3 The land shall be utterly emptied , and utterly spoiled : for the LORD hath spoken this word. 4 The earth mourneth and fadeth away , the world languisheth and fadeth away , the haughty people of the earth do languish. 5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. 6 Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate : therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.

1 posted on 07/25/2015 3:26:17 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Sounds like they won’t need much help from Mr. Gates to do that.


2 posted on 07/25/2015 3:28:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

It really is a brazen showpiece of the will of men. No sane person can imagine that this is going to engineer a utopia. But probably a utopia was never the goal. Getting in God’s face was, even if it is a misery approaching that of hell itself.


3 posted on 07/25/2015 3:29:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Why is it liberal billionaires all turn into Bond villains?


4 posted on 07/25/2015 3:30:34 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I don’t get this. Unless the vaccines are causing sterility, infertility, or impotence, the obvious outcome of preventing death from preventable disease is a higher population.


6 posted on 07/25/2015 3:31:15 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("All the time live the truth with love in your heart." ~Fr. Ho Lung)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Not using vaccines would a GREAT way to reduce the worlds population.

Are people so scientifically ignorant they believe this vaccine conspiracy garbage?


9 posted on 07/25/2015 3:35:24 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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To: Jan_Sobieski

‘Unit’. That’s all I need to know.


11 posted on 07/25/2015 3:35:53 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm fed up.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Gates knows about as much about vaccines, as Steve Jobs did about cancer, thinking cauliflower was a cure. Vaccines protect us from dreaded diseases of only a few decades ago.

Disease lowers population, vaccines don’t.

Ill never buy into this antivac hysteria. This is the modern Alar apple, Y2K, and Global warming parlor game. Another “health” game invented by American moms who grew bored with autism, irritable bowel, and fibromyalgia.


13 posted on 07/25/2015 3:36:28 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I watched the video and it was really incomplete at the end. Even acknowledging it was an excerpt, it seemed to me that he didn’t complete a thought, nor did the thought he was expressing seem connected to anything previously said.


22 posted on 07/25/2015 3:42:31 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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Lower infant mortality rates do lead to demographic transition. Bill Gates is right on that. People no longer need to outbreed disease, poor healthcare, and poor sanitation.


23 posted on 07/25/2015 3:42:49 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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The hard part is that on the current curve the earth will have 8, 9, 10, 11? Billion people if we can manage to feed them.

At some point the number does become problematic.

I am certain God has a plan. But ...


25 posted on 07/25/2015 3:43:18 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

WTF do you get the Pope or Bill gates want to reduce the population by 90%

Good health care and vaccines decrease infant mortality rates which historically leads people to have less children. You don’t need “insurance” children because you can be reasonably assured the ones you have will see adulthood.

This means women in Nigeria and Pakistan will choose to have 3-4 children instead of 10.

This Bill Gates believes will reduce global population by 15% from the projected 9 Billion peak but still above the current 6.8B.


28 posted on 07/25/2015 3:44:45 PM PDT by Reaganez
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Reproductive health services will cut the population significantly in places where there is no birth control. Vaccines and health services make it viable to have fewer children in these same places because more of the ones you have will survive.

I do think depopulation has some to do with the big push tfor gay marriage, but more than that I think it’s about procuring signed wavers for genetic experimentation when those couples decide to have children as well as profiting off of them which will help drive R&D.

Call me cynical.


33 posted on 07/25/2015 3:48:54 PM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

And don’t forget the cloned aborted baby in most vaccines! What could go wrong?


44 posted on 07/25/2015 3:57:37 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

What retarded fools. They want to kill millions because of their own science errors.


56 posted on 07/25/2015 4:09:20 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The use of the name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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CO2 = P x S x E x C.

P = People
S = Services per person
E = Energy per service
C = CO2 per energy unit

Where is the conversion of CO2 and water to O2 and biomass by algae and sunlight in that formula. An advanced capitalistic society that is allowed to accumulate capital could create large biological sequestration plants to do that.

61 posted on 07/25/2015 4:33:42 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Jan_Sobieski

G. K. Chesterton

"Surplus population"

"SCROOGE is not only as modern as Gradgrind but more modern than Gradgrind. He belongs not only to the hard times of the middle of the nineteenth century, but to the harder times of the beginning of the twentieth century; the yet harder times in which we live. Many amiable sociologists will say, as he said, "Let them die and decrease the surplus population." The improved proposal is that they should die before they are born.

"It is notable also that Dickens gives the right reply; and that with a deadly directness worthy of a much older and more subtle controversionalist. The answer to anyone who talks about the surplus population is to ask him whether he is the surplus population; or if he is not, how he knows he is not. That is the answer which the Spirit of Christmas gives to Scrooge."

~G.K. Chesterton: Introduction to A Christmas Carol. (1922)

65 posted on 07/25/2015 4:57:16 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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This is a recurring theme in the late Australian, George Turner’s works of science fiction. IMHO one of the most intense writers I have ever read.


68 posted on 07/25/2015 8:28:15 PM PDT by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski; HereInTheHeartland
I might be reading it wrong, but I think this is all being read wrong. I am not a big Gates defender, but I think you are missing something.

"Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent."

With good health care and reproductive health services, population growth has been shown to slow even without abortion and birth control. People have fewer babies, if infant and child mortality is reduced. You don't need more to ensure some make it to adulthood. Also, with a good standard of living, you don't need a bunch of kids to hope that one will take care of you. (see Africa) In addition, I know it isn't popular with some on here, but birth control is getting better and one of the vaccines that Gates is sponsoring is a birth control vaccine. Conception control is ok with me. I believe that if a person is intended to become pregnant, God will make sure it happens regardless of contraception. Once contraception happens, I believe ending it is murder. just my 2 cents.

69 posted on 07/29/2015 8:34:45 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Restore Liberty!)
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