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Bernie Sanders: 99.9 Percent of Gun Owners 'Obey The Law'
Townhall.com ^ | July 8, 2015 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 07/09/2015 11:43:14 AM PDT by Kaslin

Yeah, this isn’t going to sit well with the anti-gun wing of the Democratic Party. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) said accurately that 99.9 percent of gun owners are law-abiding citizens. This remark was made last Sunday when CNN’s Jake Tapper asked Sanders about his support for the Protection of Lawful Commerce In Arms Act (PLCAA). In essence, the PLCAA is a great law that protects the gun industry from being sued if their firearms are used in criminal activities (via Congressional Research Service):

The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA, P.L. 109-92) was passed in 2005. The PLCAA generally shields licensed manufacturers, dealers, and sellers of firearms or ammunition, as well as trade associations, from any civil action “resulting from the criminal or unlawful misuse” of a firearm or ammunition, but lists six exceptions where civil suits may be maintained. This act was introduced in response to litigation brought by municipalities and victims of shooting incidents against federally licensed firearms manufacturers and dealers, some of whom were located outside the state where the injuries occurred. Consequently, most lawsuits brought after the enactment of this law have been dismissed notwithstanding the exceptions that would permit a civil suit to proceed against a federal firearms licensee. This report provides an overview of the PLCAA and its exceptions, and discusses recent judicial developments.

For the families of the victims of the horrific Newtown shooting who filed a lawsuit with Remington Arms last year, they tried to use the negligent entrustment clause to justify their claim:

As used in subparagraph (A)(ii), the term “negligent entrustment” means the supplying of a qualified product by a seller for use by another person when the seller knows, or reasonably should know, the person to whom the product is supplied is likely to, and does, use the product in a manner involving unreasonable risk of physical injury to the person or others.

Concerning the Newtown case, that’s a bit of a stretch.

Nevertheless, Tapper asked Sanders why he voted for PLCAA in 2005 (via MSNBC) [bold text is Sanders’ response]:

In the CNN interview, Tapper asked Sanders, “Earlier this year, the parents of one of the 12 innocent people killed during the Aurora movie theater shooting, they saw their lawsuit to hold ammunition sellers liable for the attack, they saw that dismissed. And one of the reasons was a law that you voted for which protects manufacturers of firearms and ammunition from being sued. Why did you vote that way?”

Sanders stressed that the NRA is not a fan of his – he’s voted, for example, to close the gun-show loophole and in support of instant background checks – before explaining:

Now, the issues that you’re talking about is, if somebody has a gun and it falls into the hands of a murderer, and that murderer kills somebody with the gun, do you hold the gun manufacturer responsible? Not anymore than you would hold a hammer company responsible if somebody beat somebody over the head with a hammer. That is not what a lawsuit should be about.

“And this is part, by the way, I may say, of – you know, folks who do not like guns is fine, but we have millions of people who are gun owners in this country; 99.9 percent of those people obey the law. I want to see real serious debate and action on guns. But it is not going to take place if we simply have extreme positions on both sides. I think I can bring us to the middle.”

As Mary Katherine Ham wrote over at Hot Air, Sanders’ support of PLCAA has irked some at liberal sites, like Slate, calling the senator’s vote for legislation “profoundly disturbing,” and the bill itself “cruel.” The latter comment refers to the fact that two parents whose daughter was killed in the 2012 Aurora shooting have to pay $200,000 in legal fees to the gun companies they tried to sue.

Still, the PLCAA is a good law that protects gun manufacturers and ammo suppliers against frivolous lawsuits. Firearms made by these companies–and the ammo– aren’t meant to be used for criminal purposes. Law-abiding citizens, police officers, and members of the military use firearms and ammo for self-defense, hunting, and shooting sports; it’s an extension of our Second Amendment rights. Sanders’ remarks about gun owners and the logic of a lawsuit in connection to the purpose of the PLCAA is spot on–and maybe the only thing where I find common ground with this self-avowed socialist.

Well, maybe we also agree on Israel, too.

Bernie Sanders town hall gives US party line when confronted re: #gaza

Last note: The PLCAA was solid bipartisan piece of legislation.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; secondamendments
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1 posted on 07/09/2015 11:43:14 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
...99.9 percent of those people obey the law.

Even a blind squirrel is right twice a day.

2 posted on 07/09/2015 11:45:37 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Kaslin

As a VT senator he knows that his state is full of responsible gun owners, and the best gun laws in the country. That would be minimal gun laws


3 posted on 07/09/2015 11:45:48 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Kaslin
"Sanders stressed that the NRA is not a fan of his – he’s voted, for example, to close the gun-show loophole and in support of instant background checks"

There is no gun-show loophole. The laws apply the same at gun shows as anywhere else.

4 posted on 07/09/2015 11:49:28 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Kaslin

99.9% is insulting.

Would you get in an airplane that didn’t crash 99.9% of the time? I.E. 1 in a 1000 it crashes?

1 in 1000 gun owners is a criminal?


5 posted on 07/09/2015 11:49:30 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: Kaslin

Sounds more Second Amendment than my “Conservative” Senator, Pat Toomey.


6 posted on 07/09/2015 11:52:02 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Vermont Lt
Here is another one

Bernie: Let's Face It, Real Unemployment is Way Higher Than Obama Will Admit

7 posted on 07/09/2015 11:53:50 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

“The latter comment refers to the fact that two parents whose daughter was killed in the 2012 Aurora shooting have to pay $200,000 in legal fees to the gun companies they tried to sue.”

Awww, they probably shouldn’t have tried to use the corpse of their child to bolster a frivolous lawsuit if they weren’t prepared to pay the price.


8 posted on 07/09/2015 11:55:18 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Gotta wonder what Toomey was thinking when he teamed up with Slow Joe Manchin on some symbolic feel good legislation after Sandy Hook which went nowhere.


9 posted on 07/09/2015 11:56:30 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Kaslin

Thanks, Bernie. You can be against gun control, but at least speak truthfully about gun owners. That’s all anyone can ask.


10 posted on 07/09/2015 11:56:52 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
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To: Vigilanteman

I dunno, but the one thing that will end your political career in this state faster than anything else is gun grabbing.


11 posted on 07/09/2015 12:00:07 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Veggie Todd

For a democrat he’s a breath of fresh air. Too bad he believes in the failed ideas of socialism....


12 posted on 07/09/2015 12:01:02 PM PDT by GOPJ (How about 'Sanctuary Cities' for people who don't pay taxes? Criminals should be equal, right?.)
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To: Vermont Lt

He also realizes that the “control” stance is absolutely toxic in elections.


13 posted on 07/09/2015 12:02:06 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The world map will be quite different come 20 January 2017.)
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To: Malsua

He’s making a point to his potential supporters. “99.9%” is enough to make the point, without getting into the semantics that it’s really “99.9999%” or whatever order of magnitude.


14 posted on 07/09/2015 12:03:39 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The world map will be quite different come 20 January 2017.)
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To: Veggie Todd

I have nothing but contempt for most of what Bernie stands for, but I respect his honesty at least he tells you he is a socialist unlike many others of both parties that try to hide it.


15 posted on 07/09/2015 12:04:18 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kaslin
Who doesn't obey gun laws?


16 posted on 07/09/2015 12:05:40 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ( A system of government that makes the People subordinate to a committee of nine unelected lawyers)
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To: Kaslin

Obama said he wasn’t interested in gun control when he was campaigning. Any reason why we should believe Bernie wouldn’t lie to us, too?


17 posted on 07/09/2015 12:06:58 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Kaslin

Don’t underestimate this guy’s message. He’s saying EXACTLY what the real Left wants to hear, along with much of the Center. He’s the Ted Cruz of the Left.

No other D candidate comes close to his honest embracing of Leftist ideals, and it’s very appealing to many. Hillary’s message is “Hillary for President!” and that’s it; she just wants to be POTUS; like a dog chasing a car biting at the wheel, she’ll not know what to do with it if she gets it. Bernie will make the Obama’s Left turn look tame.


18 posted on 07/09/2015 12:08:22 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The world map will be quite different come 20 January 2017.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Blacks are 10.6 times more likely to be murdered by a gun than are whites.

Ten Times.

Clearly, it’s comparative light reflectivity that’s so dangerous. Not guns.


19 posted on 07/09/2015 12:10:52 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ( A system of government that makes the People subordinate to a committee of nine unelected lawyers)
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To: Malsua

Give the guy some slack. How many decimal points would he have needed to go out to to make you satisfied. The real story on this is Bernie has no expectation of winning. If he did, he would have said he changed his mind and is all in for full gun control. Vermont is as Left as it comes, but has the best gun laws in the country, virtually none. Bernie is making sure he keeps his old seat warm. No need to drop one bone, when you do not expect to grab the other one.


20 posted on 07/09/2015 12:15:10 PM PDT by gusty
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