Posted on 07/09/2015 9:18:10 AM PDT by HomerBohn
>> The free market is the only system that rewards honest and mutually beneficial dealings.
That’s an IDEA I’d agree with FRiend.
In practice, however....
Have you worked in the corporate world lately - and experienced the joys of the Rainbow Cult-ured termites taking over the woodwork 1st hand?
Is Michael Eisner’s 40%+ homosexual Disney representative of the free-market; OR is it more representative of the free-market being occultly misdirected by 2% of the population with a self-serving progressive agenda?
So-called “fiscal” conservatives are very keen on obtaining the benefits of a free-market, but without any of the constraints imposed within a moral framework like that articulated by The Word.
Boycott everybody!
>>and the rights of the not-radical employees are irrelevant
Let alone someone who gets PIP-targeted as a “Tea Bagger”.
“I’m getting to the point where I’m ready to join your call for higher taxes on the rich and corporations.
They are selling us out, seems like time to return the favor.”
Yuhp, if they sell out they should shell out! They are helping to build a new Democrat majority by support9ng amnesty, They refuse to put money into media like rich Dems do. They should have to pay for it. Not because they are rich but because they are the major part of the problem. The Democrats say they want to tax the rich and the corporations more I say it is time to do it. A revolt by conservatives like you and me to that effect would sure be the 2x4 that gets their attention.
But on the other hand something tells me that the rich lib gentry fashionista is not on the level. Socialism is easier when us poor schmucks and the next generation actually have to pay for it.
What is PIP-targeted?
In practice it works both the right way and in not so right ways. Many hundreds of millions practice it....not all the same.
First, there is a lot of free market activity every second of every day that works properly. The problem with constraints is that they come always with government power and being run by people who are at best, over bureaucratic and burdensome - and at worst are crooked and punitive.
As for Disney, again the market gives you a choice....do not go to, watch or purchase any material or theme park or network owned by them. We actually did avoid all Disney stuff for a while for similar reasons.
And BTW, we cannot, and are not called upon, to make sure everybody follows The Word, in any aspect of their life. But we’re all called upon to exercise that in our own transactions and own lives.
Like our Founders said...form a more perfect union....meaning....do not even try to form a perfect union. Cannot be done....temporally speaking.
I’m sure the system in Heaven will be collectivist...with a perfect Collector and Distributor. Until then, that’s the worst system to rely on.
Bookmark.
Its everywhere. This is what a friend of ours concluded when she finally resigned herself to shopping at Target. We are no longer living in America. I believe “America” has come to this state of affairs because citizens would not fight when victory was possible. Now we must fight anyway in the last ditch which is already in the process of being plowed under.
>>the left is now fascist, rather than socialist.
BINGO It’s the Corporatism associated with Mussolini.
>>The problem with constraints is that they come always with government power
THOU SHALT NOT STEAL is a constraint.
THOU SHALT NOT COVET is a constraint.
Who enforces those constraints if not the government:
So what if the government itself becomes an ungodly Created Thing and object of Idolatry?
Romans 1:25...
That’s what I think happens.
And here we are.
Well first of all, stealing and coveting are two totally different acts. Second of all, the government does in fact constrain theft...but dude...theft is not a free market activity....theft is a crime. Crime is crime. Laws against theft are NOT CONSTRAINTS on the free market. It's constraints on crime.
Now as for coveting...are you really saying you want a thought police government that can lock people up for coveting something? Really? How would that work? And BTW, I think the Bible tells us we should not covet, I don't think there's a single word in there about demanding that we make sure no one else covets either. That is a frightening thought....not to mention, the biggest governments in the world have used their power to be the biggest thieves in the world, from their own citizens.
That is just BIZARRE. And I'm done with Walmart. They can do what they want to do and support who or whatever they want to- But I don't have to spend my money there.
It's going to be inconvenient, and it's probably going to cost me more to shop elsewhere, but, I just can't go along with this.
Going to do my best to avoid everyone on this list who supports tearing up the traditions of my country and Christians being attacked for following their beliefs. UGGHHHHHH!
Buy guns, ammo, and food ONLY!
Starve them.
Governor Robert Bentley (R) of Alabama told a religious publication earlier this year he could not oppose a federal district judge’s gay marriage decision in his state because it would hurt the people of his state in regards to “jobs”.
Political leaders are being intimidated and controlled by big business is the only conclusion I can draw from reading that......
The Chamber of Commerce and the Manufacturers Alliance were in the forefront of pushing removal of the Confederate flag from the grounds of the Statehouse in SC.
>>Laws against theft are NOT CONSTRAINTS on the
>>free market. It’s constraints on crime
Who enforces the constraints associated with Hosea 12:7 at the meat counter today?
>>are you really saying you want a thought police government that can lock people up for coveting something?
Nope. I'm saying that the 10 Commandments define how a body, whether it be corporate or individual, should conduct themselves in commerce.
It would certainly be applicable to a government constituted of "We the People" -- Which is why John Adams said:
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
Is inducing covetousness moral per the 10 commandments? No.
What about in the context of Matt 18:6 when marketing, of IDEAs as well as physicaly manufactured products, is targeted at children?
Matt 18:6
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But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
NIV
Certainly not.
And yet that's exactly what the advertising and marketing industry often manufacture: Covetousness.
So while the covetousness intricately woven into today's Free Market is acceptable by market standards, it's still contradictory to the commandment against covetousness - and might even induce a child to STEAL or IDOLIZE that which they've been indoctrinated to COVET.
so how does that play out genius......you are advocating for a utopia that is not going to happen. You need to just clean up your own mess before getting all on your high horse with so much pride.
David keep in mind that you are dealing with an open enemy of the free market in HLP - one who thinks the government should consider coveting a crime.
And who enforced the original constraint placed on mankind in Paradise?
Have you considered the possibility that God’s commandments are supposed to be kept, rather than enforced? That they are as much, or more, a matter of ascetic discipline for the soul’s sake as they are desiderata for a well-ordered society?
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