>>moral nor immoral...but not everybody thinks so.
Maybe it's symptomatic of what happens when the needle falls off the compass.
Posted on 07/09/2015 9:18:10 AM PDT by HomerBohn
>>Yes, actually properties of water (and therefore ice)
>>were very different afterwards....WHAM!!
What temperature did H20 change into solid form before Adams’s dissobedience then?
First of all, that's false. The market is neither moral nor amoral....the market itself, like all "things" - cannot have morality or immorality by definition. Now, are there amoral players in the market? Yes, but they've done something to take the "free" out of the equation. And since we've embarrassed you with proof that your man John Adams was a BIG FREE MARKET pro PROPERTY guy, how about the Family Research Council. Perhaps you can tell us how you're so much more spiritual than James Dobson and Tony Perkins. Here's what they say:
The debate over how Christians should respond to the “Occupy Wall Street” movement carries on with Family Research Council President Tony Perkins arguing that Jesus was a free marketer who rejected a system where the individual’s diligence and willpower wouldn’t matter. “Jesus rejected collectivism and the mentality that has occupied America for the last few decades: that everyone gets a trophy – equal outcomes for inequitable performance,” Perkins wrote
The scripture is silent about that. It is not silent on rain - it didn’t ever rain then.....water was introduced in different ways. The point is, it’s wrong to assume all the laws of nature have been constant since the beginning of time. Heck, even TIME ITSELF hasn’t been constant.
That’s not only Biblical, that’s Einstein endorsed too.
>>Heck, even TIME ITSELF hasn’t been constant.
It isn’t constant now, either.
Time is a derivative function of state-change that progresses relative to E within the inertial frame(s) in which it is observed.
>>it didn’t ever rain then.....
Where does scripture say it never rained in the garden of Eden?
>>First of all, that’s false. The market is neither moral nor amoral....
“Amorality is an absence of, indifference towards, or disregard for morality. Amorality is an intrinsic property of an object because while morality is determined relatively to a moral code, amorality can exist independently, especially by default in the absence of morality.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorality
Is what you really meant to say “The market is neither moral nor immoral”?
Tools are amoral. It’s the craftsman who determines the moral, or immoral, nature of the work-product.
Actually, amoral is now often defined as the same thing as immoral....because I initially thought the same thing.
Then I found this on a dictionary app:
amoral - adjective
unprincipled, without standards, without morals, without scruples, unscrupulous, Machiavellian, unethical. ANTONYMS principled.
Then same app:
Immoral
bad, morally wrong, wrongful, wicked, evil, foul, unprincipled, unscrupulous, dishonorable, dishonest, unconscionable, iniquitous, disreputable, corrupt, depraved, vile, villainous, nefarious, base, miscreant; sinful, godless, impure, unchaste, unvirtuous, shameless, degenerate, debased, debauched, dissolute, reprobate, lewd, obscene, perverse, perverted; licentious, wanton, promiscuous, loose; informal shady, lowdown, crooked, sleazy.
But I agree, amoral was what I thought mean neither moral nor immoral...but not everybody thinks so.
>>Actually, amoral is now often defined as the same thing as immoral...
Well, that’s the NewSpeak Dictionary for ya.
I’ll stick with the traditional definition.
Maybe it's symptomatic of what happens when the needle falls off the compass.
I think anyone who claims such needs to ponder the consequences
of using an anti-free market affirmative action cheaper-than-dirt heart surgeon.
Or a pilot hired under the same circumstances.
Good luck with that and hope you save a lot of money.
I gotta tell you, I’m not sure what you’re talking about with the affirmative action cheaper than dirt heart surgeon or pilot. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one, and I know it had nothing to do with the very polite question I posed to you.
Nothing at all.
I guess my snark precedes me.. none was intended.
Perhaps I expressed myself poorly. Round two, with added clarity:
Absent a free market.. IE paying what is demanded by the market served.. some
would object to the high pay of a pilot, for example. Makes too much money.
Remove the free market and add “price controls”, government involvement
and affirmative action and VOILA! You have dollar store pilots at
the controls and the pay is more “fair” and extended to all things
“airline” you have, via denying the free market, reduced the price of flying.
You’ll crash and die but it’ll be damned cheap.
Hopefully I’ve now expressed myself less poorly.
HG: First of all, you know the snark doesn’t offend me. I mean, well, let’s just say you know that. I literally did not follow where you were going with it and wanted clarification.
You have now. I agree 100% with your post by the way.
What we have in HLP who would look at that price control part and affirmative action part and blame the free market system, which he says, much like the Pope says, is the whore of Babylon - for the perversions that outside forces (govt) put on the system. He is violently anti free market, but won’t advocate which system he prefers. Just very odd.
From Wikipedia? SRSLY? Phil Donahue, is that you?
Let's have a little Economics 101 from Milton Friedman ...
I'd hoped so.
>> He is violently anti free market, but won’t advocate which system he prefers.
You’re a liar.
I’ve repeatedly advocated the system I prefer. It’s the same one advocated by Ronald Reagan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYFk9A62Q0c
You remember him, the man your NWO candidate ridiculed with that catchy “Voodo ecomonics” phrase somebody pulled out of their arse.
adjective amor·al \(ˌ)ā-ˈmȯr-əl, (ˌ)a-, -ˈmär-\: having or showing no concern about whether behavior is morally right or wrong
Full Definition of AMORAL
1a : being neither moral nor immoral; specifically : lying outside the sphere to which moral judgments apply <science as such is completely amoral — W. S. Thompson>b : lacking moral sensibility <infants are amoral>2: being outside or beyond the moral order or a particular code of morals <amoral customs>— amor·al·ism\-ə-ˌli-zəm\ noun— amo·ral·i·ty\ˌā-mə-ˈra-lə-tē, ˌa-, -(ˌ)mȯ-\ noun— amor·al·ly\ˌā-ˈmȯr-ə-lē, (ˌ)a-, -ˈmär-\ adverb
So the market "lacks moral sensibility" - well that's certainly self-evident in the pornography and pharmaceutical industries; and the various manifestations of the systemic cattle herding mechanism that feeds from the teats of systemic morbid obesity.
>>it didn’t ever rain then.....
Where does scripture say it never rained in the garden of Eden?
How, where, and when exactly did the laws of thermodynamics and solid state physics change?
If water was exposed to an ambient temperature of 32 degrees Fahrenheit, would it not have frozen in your hypothetical environment?
actually, that’s the first time you mentioned Reagan. And by the way, your assumption that I was a “Bushie” because of that gig is just absurd...I was a Reagan guy all the way back to 76 when I was a little boy. He won his first ever primary in my state.
Reagan was a big believer in the free market.
>>Reagan was a big believer in the free market.
Which did he put more faith in, the amoral free market, or the Bible?
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