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Re: “There are no other noble powers but yourself”

If this were true, we would be in much worse shape.

The early Pilgrims should never have survived, but they did.

Colonial America should never have been able to defeat the strongest military power in its revolution against Britain, but it did.

America should have lost the Battle of Midway, but we found the Japanese carriers first, which also just happened to have their decks covered with munitions because their commanding Admiral changed the order for the type of munitions to be carried on their planes - at that very moment, our planes struck -very, very, lucky for us. We defeated Britain and the Axis powers all on our own strength and will power? Respectfully, I don’t believe so

When the Romans destroyed Israel in 70 AD, Israel should never have survived as a people for over 2000 years, yet not only did they survive, their nation was re-established in 1947, and yes, they have had a rough go of it, yet here they are still. All by their own power you say? I don’t believe that.

God didn’t save a single child from the Holocaust? I don’t believe that either.

Please don’t misunderstand me, I do get your cynicism and disbelief in the “pie in the sky by and by” religion. But, that’s not who Jesus is nor is that what He is about. He delivers us now from our slavery to sin as well as our certain damnation in Hell. He defeated death and because of that, we do not need to fear death as it will only promote us to eternal joy and life with Him in Heaven.

There is more going on than what we can only see, hear, feel, smell, and taste. There is more going on than what man does with military might and strength.

I understand that the world looks cold, cruel, and the only reality is what we do on our own. I am not arguing with you, nor angry, rather I have only a sense of sadness that life has ground you down to disbelief and cynicism - and yet, you do see the nobleness of saving the helpless and standing up to evil. I believe that is God’s fingerprints on your life and upon the lives of all those who are willing to go against wrong, even if it means putting one’s own life at risk.

God bless you for that as there are many who will not speak up or put their lives on the line when it really counts. Though you and I may disagree about God, I would be proud to fight along side you in the battle line. I hope you might feel the same toward me.

You bring up some interesting points. 1.You've relegated the fortunate outcome to circumstances that loomed disastrous to a noble power that otherwise might be called a deity,Supreme Being, God. you say it as a matter of fact but you have no license, no right to make such a giant leap. There are a myriad of empirical reasons why those in danger managed to survive.You were not there to ignore other events that may have contributed to their survival and simply say it was God.

2. You mention the survival of the Pilgrims. But there are untold number of incidences whereby individuals every bit as God-fearing that did not, most of which are lost to history. So, I can not accept your comment as irrefutable.

3.Come on. You're an adult. "America should have lost the battle of Midway". What kind of argument is that? They should have won the battle of Midway, if the circumstances they found fortuitous was there for them to win. As the Americans attacked, the Japanese were loading their aircraft onto the flight deck at the same time and were able to destroy them all due to indecisiveness of the Japanese Command structure. It's all a matter of circumstances o the physical kind, nothing supernatural

4. I've often wondered why Jews have managed to survive all this time.If you pro-rated the number of Jews at the time of the Temple to today's population there should be 200 million Jews. Where did they go? Certainly we know. they were slaughtered throughout the centuries. But I figured out the answer validated by a Jewish professor at NYU. The Non-Jews never allowed Jews to live among them. Keeping them segregated, ghettoized gave them the longevity they otherwise never would have had. Proof is, Jews having moved to China prior to WW2 had all but disappeared. Why?

Because the Chinese never segregated them. They lived among the Chinese, lost their identity, intermarried and disappeared, exactly what is happening to the Jewish people in america. Intermarriage, freedom to live anywhere in America all contribute to the loss of Jews. did you know that Reform Judaism is for all intents and purposes extinct? The demographers found that there are no third generation Reform Jews.By the time they hit the third generation they are so assimilated they don't consider themselves as Jews.

But there still is hope for the world and even for the both of us.

You see, I am agnostic, not atheist.

I absolutely agree WITH YOU that
There is more going on than what we can only see, hear, feel, smell, and taste. There is more going on than what man does with military might and strength.

So, there is still yet hope for me, mankind. :-)