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To: Gaffer
One might say North and South was comprised of the same demographic groups, but as a born and raised southerner, I know that isn’t true with respect to culture and ideas about freedom, tradition, and belonging.

I was saying the very opposite. I was saying that the same demographic groups divided back in those days, is the same demographic groups divided nowadays. The North Eastern Liberals are all supporting the latest socialistic/modern moral fads, and the Same Southern Demographics are opposing them.

Unfortunately, to them has been joined the Billionaire groups of San Fransisco and Los Angeles, and they both bask in their disdain for flyover "Jesus Land." The "god" they worship now is government, but they still all exhibit that Northeastern Puritanical witch hunting mindest for which their fanaticism was made famous.

You can feel the palpable hatred by Northerners for Southerners in most any comedian’s routine when playing to a NYC audience, for example.

Did you follow that link I posted earlier? It simply counts this as an ongoing aspect of the War between the English and the Scots-Irish.

162 posted on 07/07/2015 11:29:21 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp

I think the war between the English and Scots-Irish idea is stretching things. English descended people made up the considerable majority in both sections.

Scots-Irish were concentrated in the mountainous areas of the South, and thus a surprisingly large number were Unionists.

The New England states at the time were heavily English, but the Mid-Atlantic and Midwest states were very mixed. Large percentages of people in midwest states came from the South.

Davis and Lincoln were born within 9 months and 100 miles of each other in the KY mountains. Davis went south and west, and Lincoln north and west.


166 posted on 07/07/2015 11:54:11 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: DiogenesLamp
It simply counts this as an ongoing aspect of the War between the English and the Scots-Irish.

Hmmmm....maybe that's why when I traced my momma's line back it went to the Scottish Wemyss line in the late 1600s(changed to Weems here in the 1700s). My daddy's line was in SC but they were mostly Heinz 57 I think. Not many records on them.

I guess I just got a little tied up in the terminology and in the English/Scottish thing, but it seems to make sense. Regardless, we are now left with a very distinct difference between the North and South - completely different mindsets about nearly every subject, IMO.

262 posted on 07/08/2015 4:29:47 AM PDT by Gaffer
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