Posted on 07/06/2015 11:07:30 AM PDT by jimbo123
Rove Today: When Mr. Cruz and I talked in 2009, I was not raising money for the Bush Library, nor was former President Bush 43 going to endorse some unnamed Dallas state representative for state attorney general, nor were any library donors berating me.
Rove in 2009: [T]he distress you mention is not mine or 43 it is the people raising money for the library who are also Branch fans and will not understand why one part of the Bush family is for not-the-guy while they are raising money big bucks for library.
HOUSTON, Texas The presidential campaign of U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, today released the following statement from Sen. Cruz and earlier emails between Cruz and Karl Rove setting the record straight regarding Roves blatantly false recap of their 2009 conversations (as posted here on medium.com).
Sen. Cruz:
I have known Karl Rove for a long time, and have considered him a friend. I understood that my recounting in my book A Time for Truth the threats he made in the 2009 Texas Attorney General raceand the disparaging remarks he made about President George H.W. Bushwould cause him some discomfort.
But I never imagined that his response would be a straight-out falsehood. Its disappointing; this is why people are so cynical about politics, because too many people are willing to lie.
No part of our 2009 conversation concerned my good friend Greg Abbott.
Below is email correspondence, contemporaneous from that week, demonstrating the veracity of my account. Karl admits, in writing, that his concern was for the people raising money for the library who are also [then Texas Rep. Dan] Branch fans and will not understand why one part of the Bush family is for not-the-guy while they are raising money big bucks for library.
2009 Email Correspondence:
From: Karl Rove To: Ted Cruz Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 8:24 AM Subject: Re: Follow-up from today
thanks I appreciate your doing what you can to keep this down the distress you mention is not mine or 43 it is the people raising money for the library who are also Branch fans and will not understand why one part of the Bush family is for not-the-guy while they are raising money big bucks for library.
Thanks too for clarifying that you asked to visit with 41; be as nonchulant as possible about the gift and well muddle through
On Jul 1, 2009, at 12:49 AM, Ted Cruz wrote:
Karl,
I am very sorry if I have done anything to distress you or President Bush 43 in any way.
Over the past several years, youve been extraordinarily generous in providing advice and insight re the AG campaign, and I have endeavored to follow your wise counsel to the letter. When we last spoke in January, you advised that the best way to convince Branch not to run was to bring aboard as many old bulls across the state as possible, so that the rest of the state would counteract his natural base in Highland Park. Since then, Ive spent 18 hours a day doing nothing but working to follow that course of action, and weve been fortunate to enjoy significant success.
None of that matters, though. I got my start in politics (such as it was) working for you and for President Bush 43, and Ive spent much of my adult life working to support the President. The last thing I would ever want to do is place either of you in a difficult situation.
When I asked to visit with President Bush 41, and he very kindly agreed, I imagined that we would spend maybe 20 minutes talking about the race, he would give his insights on Texas politics, and that would be it. I could not have been more astonished when he offered his support and gave me a personal check for the campaign.
Obviously, I recognize that President Bush 41s support is a very big deal, and inded I had been in discussions with his office about our issuing a press release about the endorsement. Given the concerns you expressed this afternoon, I have told 41s office that we will skip the press release altogether (see below).
His support will of course attract attention (much of which will be beyond my control), but I will very much follow your counsel to downplay the support and not highlight it in any way.
My hope is that this race will ultimately end up in a win-win scenario, that Dan will choose to run for the new Dallas congressional seat that will be drawn in 2012 and that he and I can work together as friends and allies for a long time. I know that a number of key donors have been urging precisely that course of action, which, if Dan were to choose to follow, would perhaps alleviate some of the concerns we discussed.
I know that it doesnt rise to the importance of what you have been doing these past eight years, but I do think there is a real need right now for new leadership in the Republican Party, and I am hopeful that this campaign can play at least some role in helping provide that leadership. Your legacy and President Bush 43s legacy, and especially the enormous progress yall made in the Hispanic community, are too important not to keep pressing ahead.
Karl, youve been a friend and mentor a long time, and I value that friendship immensely. Please let me know anything I can possibly do to address your and President Bush 43s concerns.
Thanks so much.
Ted.
Forwarded Message - From: Ted Cruz To: President George H.W. Bushs assistant Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:19:00 PM Subject: Discretion being the better part of valor
Jean,
I spoke with Karl this afternoon, and he expressed real concerns that our drawing attention to President Bush 41s very kind support of the campaign would put President Bush 43 in a difficult position. The last thing I want to do is cause any trouble, so its probably wiser just to forego this press release.
So, unless you disagree, I think it probably makes sense simply to include 41 on our overall list of donors, but not to do any separate release or anything highlighting his support, for which I remain deeply, deeply grateful.
Thanks so much,
Ted.
Rove is a liar and a sleezy SOB.
Who to believe? Tokyo Rove or Ted? Decisions, decisions.
Have made it clear I am no fan of Cruz, but he gets 3 huge cheers from me for ANYTIME with which he can slap Rove around.
This is one of my favorite parts of Cruz’s book. Don’t think old Karl will be endorsing Ted. Since Karl supports RINO’s , not getting his endorsement is a good thing.
If hillary had custody of the emails, they’d have been “lost” years ago.
Yes. It is a hard decision. On the one hand you have an evil lying scumbag traitor who never misses a chance to stab a conservative in the back... and on the other hand you have a true conservative.
Who to believe? Who to believe?
I share your dilemma. :)
I choose to believe Senator Cruz—LOL!
I’m all for him!
If we were to check Mr. Rove’s finances I wouldn’t be surprised if he got checks from the Democratic National Committee for consultant work on their behalf. Someone like him plays on both sides of the fence.
I can’t figure out what happened or what’s going on now, and I went to Cruz’s site and read the thing.... unclear is the only word that works.
“Ted Cruz Sets Record Straight With Karl Rove”
It is impossible to believe that Karl Rove would take ANY constructive criticism, even when laid out before him in simple and logical terms. Karl Rove is an ideologue inseparably tied to the Bush doctrines, a sort of muddled version of what the Republican Establishment presumes to think are “conservative” values. “Compassionate conservatism” is a complete oxymoron. It was cognitive dissonance when it was first announced, and critical thinking reveals it as even more of a skewed concept.
Emotion triumphs over good sense.
Cruz is not served well by making his association with RINOs- an issue.
Rove has an estate in the Austin area, or so I have heard.
He fits well in the environment.
Yes, he is.
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