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To: Kaslin
Once upon a time, marriage constituted property—the wife was the literal property of the husband, and could not legally let alone culturally own anything of her own. The governing cultural norm was that women should be barefoot, pregnant and subservient.

I keep reading this. Does anyone know if this actually true?
20 posted on 07/05/2015 7:02:01 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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To: ronnietherocket3
I keep reading this. Does anyone know if this actually true?

Not in America. If it were, all those wills from my family in this country going back four hundred years would be rather silly.

25 posted on 07/05/2015 7:12:14 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I understand the temptation to defeatism, but that doesn't mean I approve of it.)
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To: ronnietherocket3

It was so in Ancient Israel...and remains so in some “african” tribal “societies” today


32 posted on 07/05/2015 7:24:27 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: ronnietherocket3
Pretty much:
England was not a comfortable place for most women. Medieval women invariably had a hard time in an era when many men lived harsh lives. A few women lived comfortable lives but Medieval society was completely dominated by men and women had to know ‘their place’ in such a society.

Medieval society would have been very traditional. Women had little or no role to play within the country at large. Within towns, society would have effectively dictated what jobs a woman could do and her role in a medieval village would have been to support her husband. As well as doing her daily work, whether in a town or village, a woman would have had many responsibilities with regards to her family.

Within a village, women would have done many of the tasks men did on the land. However, they were paid less for doing the same job. Documents from Medieval England relating to what the common person did are rare, but some do exist which examine what villages did. For reaping, a man could get 8 pence a day. For the same task, women would get 5 pence. For hay making, men would earn 6 pence a day while women got 4 pence. In a male dominated society, no woman would openly complain about this disparity.

About 90% of all women lived in rural areas and were therefore involved in some form of farm work.

In medieval towns, women would have found it difficult to advance into a trade as medieval guilds frequently barred women from joining them. Therefore, a skilled job as recognised by a guild was usually out of reach for any woman living in a town. Within towns, women were usually allowed to do work that involved some form of clothes making but little else.

“Various people of the weavers’ craft in Bristol employ their wives, daughters and maids either to weave at their looms, or to work for someone else at the same craft.”From records of 1461.

For many women, a life as a servant for the rich was all they could hope for. Such work was demanding and poorly rewarded.

The law, set by men, also greatly limited the freedom of women. Women were:

not allowed to marry without their parents’ consent

could own no business with special permission

not allowed to divorce their husbands

could not own property of any kind unless they were widows

could not inherit land from their parents’ if they had any surviving brothers

Many women from rich backgrounds would have married when they were teenagers. Medieval society had a different outlook to children when compared to today. Children from poor families would have worked from the earliest age possible and they were treated as adults from the age of ten or eleven. Many girls from poor families did not get married until they were in their twenties.

Girls from richer families tended to marry earlier than girls from poor families. The poorer families needed as many working for them as was possible, so a daughter getting married at an early age would have deprived them of a worker. This was not true for a rich family. Girls had no choice over who they married and many girls from rich families were usually married to someone as a political gesture or because it was an advantage to the girl’s family itself – as opposed to what the girl herself wanted. Once married, the young lady came under the control of her husband.

Producing a male heir within a rich family was considered vital. So many women spent a great deal of their married life pregnant. However, childbirth was dangerous as medical care was so poor. It is thought that as many as 20% of all women died in childbirth and it was the most common cause of death among young women.

Wives from a rich family usually did not look after their children. This was done by a wet nurse. Women from a poor family not only had to look after the children but had to continue doing her day-to-day work both in the home and on the land. Many women from poor families did not live past the age of forty.

Source
37 posted on 07/05/2015 7:28:56 PM PDT by moose07 (Islam and the New Stone age: A book i've not yet written.)
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To: ronnietherocket3

It is true in the Muslim world, I believe


41 posted on 07/05/2015 7:31:38 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: ronnietherocket3
I keep reading this. Does anyone know if this actually true?

It's about as true as any other statement that beings with 'once upon a time...'.

50 posted on 07/05/2015 7:38:25 PM PDT by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: ronnietherocket3
Once upon a time, marriage constituted property—the wife was the literal property of the husband, and could not legally let alone culturally own anything of her own. The governing cultural norm was that women should be barefoot, pregnant and subservient.

Whereas in communism, aka socialism, aka liberalism, aka progressivism, people (especially women, children, and minorities) belong to the borg collective. No one is allowed to be an individual.

66 posted on 07/05/2015 8:04:00 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: ronnietherocket3

No. It’s another feminist myth. One of my woman ancestors, Sarah, owned a large tract of land over 300 years ago, when she was very young and unmarried. And to this day in at least many states, the property of married people is community property—not the property of either individual. Assets are split 50/50 in the event of divorce in at least some states. Prenuptial agreements are honored for moguls and movie stars but not for many of lesser means.


74 posted on 07/05/2015 8:52:19 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: ronnietherocket3
No.

Truth is: wives are intended to be barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen.

78 posted on 07/06/2015 12:46:19 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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