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Second World War tank and anti-aircraft gun found hidden in basement of villa in Germany
The Telegraph ^ | 07-03-2015 | Melanie Hall

Posted on 07/03/2015 11:17:02 AM PDT by NRx

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To: headstamp 2
They probably removed the track to m make easier to move around.
61 posted on 07/03/2015 1:49:10 PM PDT by amigatec (2 Thess 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: SunkenCiv
What the Germans did do was, the Tiger and King Tiger had 2 sets of tracks. A narrow set for rail travel and a wide set for driving around on. When the narrow set was installed they would removed the outer road wheels so the tank would fit on the rail cars.
62 posted on 07/03/2015 1:54:05 PM PDT by amigatec (2 Thess 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: Covenantor
Und zen I remember U-995 Museum in Kiel. Ambitious old man perhaps.

And then there is the U-505, safely berthed in Chicago at the Museum of Science and Industry.


63 posted on 07/03/2015 2:06:10 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: amigatec

Thanks amigatec!

Any idea where? It happened during the 1940 campaign in France.


64 posted on 07/03/2015 2:10:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: NYer

how totally awesome! and a privately owned torpedo to boot?


65 posted on 07/03/2015 2:26:11 PM PDT by RitchieAprile (the heat will be on.)
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To: NRx

Arguably, the Panther was the best tank in WW2. Faster and more reliable than the Tigers.
But the 88 was the best anti tank gun, even though it was originally an AA gun.


66 posted on 07/03/2015 2:30:24 PM PDT by grumpygresh (My real thoughts have been self censored.)
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To: FreedomPoster

T34/85 was apparently a great tank, too. People have debated for decades over which was best. I think I’ll stick with the Panther.


67 posted on 07/03/2015 2:33:00 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: TangibleDisgust

Interesting fact. The wider tracks make sense in the field, but I can see how narrow ones would be better for transport. Tigers weren’t exactly small tanks.


68 posted on 07/03/2015 2:40:29 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: grumpygresh
Probably the best German Tank was the MkIV. But it proved to be to light to take out the T34.

You can still buy T34 Tanks today in running condition.

69 posted on 07/03/2015 2:46:03 PM PDT by amigatec (2 Thess 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: TangibleDisgust

However, based on production numbers of Shermans and Panthers, 5 to 1 losses meant the allies were winning that hands down.


70 posted on 07/03/2015 2:48:26 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Peter, That is the suspension system the Germans used on their Panther and Tiger tanks. What you don’t see in this close up photo is the drive sprocket.

The drive sprocket is the first ‘wheel’ on the right, with the bars in the center: https://www.google.com/search?q=german+mark+v+panther+tank&biw=1280&bih=566&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=vwiXVe3PEYO4-AHu0LzYAQ&ved=0CCgQsAQ#imgrc=TLhGOLYrNuWLTM%3A

An article on tank drive sprockets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprocket


71 posted on 07/03/2015 3:15:35 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: CitizenUSA; TangibleDisgust

And they also had to take off the outer road wheel on each side to make it narrow enough for the rail cars, after they put on the narrow track.


72 posted on 07/03/2015 3:20:52 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: amigatec

Mk IV didn’t have sloped armor and was vulnerable from the front and sides.

Panther was an upgrade from T34.

The big knock on WW2 German tanks was their complexity which lead to more breakdowns and made finding replacement parts more difficult.


73 posted on 07/03/2015 7:52:12 PM PDT by grumpygresh (My real thoughts have been self censored.)
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To: GeronL

maybe and he lost them while tooling around. i want one fully functional of course. prefer a tiger.


74 posted on 07/03/2015 8:33:51 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone all iCommentaries I p44)
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To: Noumenon
"Nothing like an 88 to deal with those pesky door-to-door salesmen."


"You know Hub, we might want to think about getting a German 88..."

75 posted on 07/03/2015 8:44:52 PM PDT by Rebelbase ( NASCAR 2015: "Bootlegger to boot licker"--FReeper Crim)
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To: Bluewater2015

Provided you could get the Maybach HL230 engine started, or once started, running.


76 posted on 07/04/2015 3:47:46 AM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: GreyFriar

The movies “Tiger” tanks were built-up on T-34/85s obtained from the Yugoslav army.


77 posted on 07/04/2015 3:52:18 AM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: X Fretensis

Thank you. I’ve been unsure of which tank was used since the movie came out because I couldn’t get a really good view of the road wheels and my sources show the Yugoslavs had received both types of tanks.


78 posted on 07/04/2015 6:35:21 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: X Fretensis

Thank you. I’ve been unsure of which tank was used since the movie came out because I couldn’t get a really good view of the road wheels and my sources show the Yugoslavs had received both types of tanks.


79 posted on 07/04/2015 6:35:32 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: TangibleDisgust

Sorry didn’t make myself clear. I was referring to the mobile 88’s that were used for tank hunting.


80 posted on 07/04/2015 7:04:33 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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