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Poll: Majority Want to Keep Confederate Generals Honored on Sites
News Max ^ | 06/29/15 | Cathy Burke

Posted on 06/30/2015 7:52:59 AM PDT by Enlightened1

IMPORTANT: Don't make a Terrible Mistake in 2016... Home | America Tags: confederate | generals | honor | forts | leadership Poll: Majority Want to Keep Confederate Generals Honored on Sites

By Cathy Burke | Monday, 29 Jun 2015 08:53 PM Short URL| Email Article| Comment| Contact| Print| A A Copy Shortlink An overwhelming majority of Americans say they don't want the Army to rename facilities honoring Confederate generals, a new online survey shows.

According to Stars and Stripes, 88 percent of 21,504 online responses voted in favor of keeping the names.

The question elicited more than 1,300 comments, Stars and Stripes reports.

"As a U.S. Army veteran, I believe that these military bases have been in operation for decades and are well-known to active and veteran military personnel," one survey taker identified as Harry Bolton writes. "Since we are such a small portion of the population, we should make the call. I also believe that the men, for whom these bases have been named, served with honor and many served both the U.S. during earlier wars and then the Confederate states during the civil war. They deserve to be honored and these bases should remain as they are.”

The issue of naming posts after those who fought under the Confederate flag has emerged in the wake of the racially motivated slayings of nine people at a historic black church in Charleston, S.C., on June 17.

South Carolina was the first to call for the removal of the flag from its Capitol grounds, but the idea caught on in other states, public places, and even among retailers.

According to Stars and Stripes, which conducted the online survey, 10 Army posts named after Confederate soldiers are in southern states, including Fort Bragg in North Carolina and Fort Benning in Georgia.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


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1 posted on 06/30/2015 7:52:59 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

Oh, they do, do they?

Well, we’ll see how THAT works out.


2 posted on 06/30/2015 7:54:03 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Enlightened1

Decisions made in haste are rarely the correct decisions.


3 posted on 06/30/2015 7:54:42 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Fido969

only 88% want it.


4 posted on 06/30/2015 7:55:14 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1
American communists in Washington want to destroy everything sacred to American history. They want to reduce us to blank minds and simple third world thoughts. And they are making it.
5 posted on 06/30/2015 7:56:05 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Fido969

Guard the sites.

With arms.

Be prepared to use them.

Libs are slime and are not to be trusted, nor respected.


6 posted on 06/30/2015 7:56:49 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Enlightened1


7 posted on 06/30/2015 7:57:41 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: grobdriver

“Decisions made in haste are rarely the correct decisions.”

You would be correct. However, this “decision” has been in the works for decades. From the 1963 Communist Manifesto presented in the House of Representatives:

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.”


8 posted on 06/30/2015 7:57:49 AM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: Enlightened1

There are claims now that the fedgov forced Amazon to remove the flags.


9 posted on 06/30/2015 7:59:57 AM PDT by Salamander (We're ALL Dixie, now.)
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To: Salamander

I don’t know if that’s true, but it would not surprise me.


10 posted on 06/30/2015 8:00:49 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Logical me
It's just like the last election.

Obama was defeated at the voting box, but the Republican have severely disappointed us.

All this could have been stopped, and it's why I no longer have confidence in the Republican Party.

11 posted on 06/30/2015 8:03:01 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1
(I've been intellectually and emotionally off the deep end with everything that has happened these past few weeks)

How do we know there wasn't some great civilization that existed tens of thousands of years ago, and in its decline all remnants of it were destroyed, so the people would have no historic memory of that greatness? And we're next down that road.

12 posted on 06/30/2015 8:03:27 AM PDT by grania
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To: Enlightened1

Why would anyone start caring about what the majority wants?


13 posted on 06/30/2015 8:03:42 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Enlightened1

There are several screen caps of online chats between Amazon support reps and customers, wherein they make that statement.

I’m in trust but verify mode, right now.

We’ll see.


14 posted on 06/30/2015 8:04:17 AM PDT by Salamander (We're ALL Dixie, now.)
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To: Fido969

Right.Majority are against homos marrying and O Care,no matter how the MSNBC’s,CNN’s and networks spin it & we saw how that went


15 posted on 06/30/2015 8:13:22 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Enlightened1

Give social media about ten years to work on them. They’ll flip that around just like they did on marriage.


16 posted on 06/30/2015 8:14:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Fido969

“...Majority Want to Keep Confederate Generals Honored on Sites...”

Since when did the majority have any say so in any matter?


17 posted on 06/30/2015 8:26:53 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (You have your fear, which might become reality; and you have Godzilla, which IS reality.)
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To: NCC-1701

Yeah, the majority of Americans oppose so called “gay” marriage, but it did not good. The “majority” on SCOTUS overruled us.


18 posted on 06/30/2015 8:28:17 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Enlightened1

THE TRUTH ABOUT CONFEDERATE HISTORY
— And It’s Not What You’ve Been Taught
“Contrarily, Confederate General Robert E. Lee freed his slaves (which he never purchased – they were inherited) in 1862!!! Lee freed his slaves several years before the war was over, and considerably earlier than his Northern counterparts. And during the fierce early days of the war when the South was obliterating the Yankee armies!”
Source: America’s Freedom Fighters
MARCH 13, 2015
BY DEAN JAMES

History books, the media, the school systems, etc abound in falsehoods and inaccuracies of Confederate and Southern history. This fact sheet will help to clarify and dispel some of these rampant inaccuracies.
MYTH  –   The War of 1861 – 1865 was fought over slavery.
FACT  –   Terribly untrue. The North fought the war over money. Plain and simple. When the South started Secession, Lincoln was asked, “Why not let the South go in peace?” To which he replied, “I can’t let them go. Who would pay for the government?” Sensing total financial ruin for the North, Lincoln waged war on the South. The South fought the War to repel Northern aggression and invasion. Lincoln never had the heart-massaging idea to use “Slavery” as the reason until more than a year after the shooting started when Frederick Douglas suggested it as a way to get sympathy for the bloodshed. 

MYTH  –   Only Southerners owned slaves.
 
FACT  –   Entirely untrue. Many Northern civilians owned slaves. Prior to, during and even after the War Of Northern Aggression.
Surprisingly, to many history impaired individuals, most Union Generals and staff had slaves to serve them! William T. Sherman had many slaves that served him until well after the war was over and did not free them until late in 1865.
U.S. Grant also had several slaves, who were only freed after the 13th amendment in December of 1865. When asked why he didn’t free his slaves earlier, Grant stated “Good help is so hard to come by these days.”
Contrarily, Confederate General Robert E. Lee freed his slaves (which he never purchased – they were inherited) in 1862!!! Lee freed his slaves several years before the war was over, and considerably earlier than his Northern counterparts. And during the fierce early days of the war when the South was obliterating the Yankee armies!

MYTH  –   The Confederate Battle Flag was flown on slave ships.
 
FACT  –   NONE of the flags of the Confederacy or Southern Nation ever flew over a slave ship. Nor did the South own or operate any slaves ships. The English, the Dutch and the Portuguese brought slaves to this country, not the Southern Nation.
BUT, even more monumental, it is also very important to know and understand that Federal, Yankee, Union ships brought slaves to America! These ships were from the New England states, and their hypocrisy is atrocious.
These Federals were ones that ended up crying the loudest about slavery. But without their ships, many of the slaves would have never arrived here. They made countless fortunes on the delivery of slaves as well as the products made from raw materials such as cotton and tobacco in the South.
This is the problem with Yankee history History is overwhelmingly portrayed incorrectly by most of the Federal & Yankee books and media.

MYTH  –   The Confederate Battle Flag represented the Southern Nation.
 
FACT  –   Not true. While the Southern Battle flag was carried into battle, the Southern Nation had 3 different National flags during the course of the war.
The First National flag was changed due to a resemblance of the US flag.
The Second National flag was subsequently modified due to the similarity to a flag of truce.
The Third National flag was the adopted flag of the Confederacy.
The Confederate Battle Flag was never a National Flag of the Confederacy. It was carried into battle by several armies such as the Army Of Northen Virginia and the Army of Tennessee. Was also used as a Naval Jack by the Confederate Navy.

MYTH  –   The Confederate Battle Flag is known as the “Stars & Bars”.
 
FACT  –   A common misconception. The First National Confederate Flag is correctly known as the “Stars & Bars”. The Confederate Battle Flag is known as the “Southern Cross”.

MYTH  –   The Confederate Battle Flag represents racism today.
 
FACT  –   The Confederate Battle Flag today finds itself in the center of much controversy and hoopla going on in several states. The cry to take this flag down is unjustified. It is very important to keep in mind that the Confederate Battle Flag was simply just that. A battle flag. It was never even a National flag, so how could it have flown over a slave nation or represented slavery or racism? This myth is continued by lack of education and ignorance. Those that vilify the Confederate Battle Flag are very confused about history and have jumped upon a bandwagon with loose wheels.

MYTH  –   The United States Flag represented freedom.
 
FACT  –   No chance. The US flag flew over a slave nation for over 85 years! The North tolerated slavery and acknowledged it as a Division Of Labor. The North made a vast fortune on slavery and it’s commodities. It wasn’t until the South decided to leave the Union that the North objected. The North knew it could not survive without the Southern money. That is the true definition of hypocrisy.

MYTH  –   Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.
 
FACT  –   While Lincoln has went down in history as the Great Emancipator, many would not care to hear his real thoughts on people of color. Martyred President Abraham Lincoln was fervently making plans to send all freed slaves to the jungles of Central America once the war was over. Knowing that African society would never allow the slaves to return back to Africa, Lincoln also did not want the slaves in the US. He thought the jungles of Central America would be the best solution and conducive to the freed slaves best interest. The only thing that kept this from happening, was his assassination.

MYTH  –   The South revered slavery.
 
FACT  –   A very interesting fact on slavery is that at the time the War of 1861 -1865 officially commenced, the Southern States were actually in the process of freeing all slaves in the South. Russia had freed it’s servants in 1859, and the South took great note of this. Had military intervention not been forced upon the South, a very different America would have been realized then as well as now.

MYTH  –   The Confederate Army was comprised of rich slave owners.
 
FACT  –   Very far from true. The vast majority of soldiers in the Confederate Army were simple men of meager income. Most of which were hard working farmers and common men. Then, as now, very few rich men ever fight a war.

MYTH  –   Only the North had men of color in their ranks.
 
FACT  –   Quite simply a major falsehood of history. Many blacks, both free and of their own will, joined the Confederate Army to fight for their beloved Southern home. Additionally, men of other ethnic extraction fought as well. Oriental, Mexican & Spanish men as well as Native American Indians fought with pride for the South.
Today, many men of color are members in the heritage group SCV – Sons Of Confederate Veterans. These men of color and pride rejoice in their heritage. The continued attacks on the Southern Nation, The Confederacy, and her symbols are a terrible outrage to these fine people. These attacks should be denounced with as much fervor as those who denounce the South.

MYTH  –   The Confederate Flags are an authorized symbol of Aryan, KKK and hate groups.
 
FACT  –   Quite the contrary. These despicable organizations such as the KKK and Aryans have taken a hallowed piece of history, and have plagued good Southern folks and the memories of fine Confederate Soldiers that fought under the flag with their perverse agenda. IN NO WAY does the Confederate Flag represent hate or violence. Heritage groups such as the SCV battle daily the damage done to a proud nation by these hate groups. The SCV denounces all hate groups, and pridefully boast HERITAGE – NOT HATE.

MYTH  –   The SCV – Sons Of Confederate Veterans are a racist, hate group.
 
FACT  –   This is a blatant attack on one of the finest heritage groups ever. The SCV – Sons Of Confederate Veterans are a historical, patriotic and non-political organization comprised of descendants of Confederate Soldiers and sailors dedicated to insuring that a true history of the 1861 -1865 period is preserved and presented to the public. The SCV continues to educate the public of the memory and reputation of the Confederate soldier as well as the motives for his suffering and sacrifice.
The SCV – Sons Of Confederate Veterans are in NO WAY affiliated with, nor does it recognize or condone the terrible legacy of hate groups such as the KKK. 
This article originally appeared at http://www.rulen.com/


19 posted on 06/30/2015 9:40:06 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

The 45 Step Communist Plan from 1963 was bad enough, but Saul Alinsky had a shorter version:
How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:
There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state.
The first is the most important.
1) Healthcare: Control healthcare and you control the people
2) Poverty: Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3) Debt: Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4) Gun Control: Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5) Welfare: Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).
6) Education: Take control of what people read and listen to take control of what children learn in school.
7) Religion: Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.
8) Class Warfare: Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.


20 posted on 06/30/2015 9:40:12 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Political Correctness is Supression of Free Speech. Thank the Commies for Political Correctness.)
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