Republican-led Congress hands Obama major win on trade

CNS ^ | June 24, 2015 | CHARLES BABINGTON

[xzins]

WASHINGTON (AP)

[familyop]

Let me understand....you’re really talking about conservatism without reliance on electoral politics. Or to coin a phrase...Conservatism without Ballots. Its something I’ve been thinking a great deal about lately. With the exception of the most deluded, I think there is pretty much a consesnsus that electoral politics has failed. You see it both on the left and on the right

If we value conservatism and freedom, I think it’s incumbent on us to be conservative and free. Permission from the kleptocrats not really required. I see hundreds of ideas for expanding freedom that don’t involve politics. Perhaps the emphasis should be on that rather than which group of scumbags we think would do a better job wielding the whip.

So long as we remain focused on a rigged political game that we just can’t seem to win, we’ll continue to lose. No one that I’m aware of sells books on winning strategies for three card monte, because it’s generally accepted to be a suckers game. Is electiral politics really any different? What we see right now at the Federal level is electoral “success.” The gop won in 2014. Sure doesn’t feel like victory to me.

Yes. Sorry that I've been writing and finding links in a bit of a hurry.

Let's play the political game, though, because we do want to retain whatever constitutional rights we can hold on to. Only give enough time and money to some of the more willing politicians for guarding those rights. There are much more important things to do with most of our personal time.

It's time to prepare to decouple from the dying whole-world economic model of production and services that are too centralized. That model is the source of many of the current social and political problems.

After coming from generations of pampering, some people become very spoiled and obsessed with controlling others. A few others (even some entertainment celebrities), although living lives partially insular from our lives, do care and are helping as our benefactors, cheerleaders, and even some as participants. I salute those real heroes and heroines keeping low profiles when in our midst.

I posted a peek at one small operation that will be part of the solution in comment #65.

You'll probably like the info (links) in comment #78 even more.

...and some new equipment for textiles being tested by users (makers) now, and much more.

Have a look at some of today's news, and it's only about services.

Many big companies live in fear for their future in digital age - Yahoo News
http://news.yahoo.com/many-big-companies-live-fear-future-digital-age-132019448--sector.html

Uber protests in Paris: Government outlaws online service which connects passengers with unlicensed drivers after taxi demonstrations - Europe - World - The Independent
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/uber-protests-in-paris-government-outlaws-online-service-which-connects-passengers-with-unlicensed-drivers-after-taxi-demonstrations-10344352.html

Equipment with open source design for enormous numbers of small manufacturing operations in a distributed economy (economy of working communities) will bring much more obvious changes.

Consider the political changes from those efforts. ...equipment that can be easily moved or even built again at low cost. Mobility is a very important strategic capability at times for some (NIMBYs, extortion and gatekeeping regulations). Stealth is another.

There's no shortage of air, water or earth. This planet could support 50 billion people. The real fear in some, is that they'll be confined to working a very few hours per week and unable to control others.

[familyop]

An end run around politics, you see. Many people tend to do what is more natural and healthy when busy and not required to bow to the pathologies of others. When being practical to fit into a more busy environment with demands for local responsibility, people also tend to be more old fashioned (conservative).

Some propagandists sponsored by fearful folks have warned against evil “technocracy,” although what they’ve described is not technocracy at all. But yes, technocracy is what they’re afraid of—government by practicality.

In a national or larger regional environment with a level startup field and means of production very distributed, individuals would work with what works before being influential (immediate realities of production). Families would work while more often having time to defend against anyone coveting (anti-family, anti-competition interests, gossips).

[RKBA Democrat]

I think i know where you’re coming from on the distributed architecture. An example is in the RKBA world where there is distributed, open source software out there to make gun receivers. In essence, you can (almost) punch a button and make your own firearm. Or at least the part that is licensed. A lot of my older school cohorts think I’m smoking something when I note that we just essentially won. If you can build your own, all the licensing schemes in the world won’t matter. And I think we’re less than 5 years out from being there.

As for political involvement, you’re absolutely right. We do have better things to do with our time. I differ slightly on whether our personal involvement is necessary at all. There will always be those who are convinced that “this time will be different” and will remain enthralled by partisan politics. Wonderful. Let them be enthralled. Let them search for new and improved kleptocrats. I’m interested in hooking up with those who want to render the kleptocrats irrelevant.

I will look at your links that you were kind enough to provide.

Keep in touch, FRiend. I think we’re about at one of those magical shifting points where all matter of things are possible.

[familyop]

Here’s something worth doing—something that most politicians have been cooperating with us on because of overwhelming bipartisan rabble support for our Second Amendment (big bucks, unusual rabble alertness and certain ends to careers for those who refuse to comply). It doesn’t really take much time.

We should be contacting our senators to tell them to oppose any and all gun control legislation. Manchin and Toomey are plotting and scheming.

Manchin, Toomey both interested in reviving gun control push
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3303455/posts

National Association for Gun Rights
https://www.nationalgunrights.org

[RKBA Democrat]

“An end run around politics you see.....”

Yup. We’re on the same page.

[RKBA Democrat]

Yes, I do that all the time. GOA has a great “write your kleptocrat” tool that takes all of 30 seconds. Not enough resources to worry about. Debatable as to whether it does anything, but it wouldn’t hurt.

ElectIng a better kleptocrat takes many hours and dollars. No way. I’d rather teach someone how to treat their hobby as a business and save bucks on their taxes. Less money for the kleptocrats to play with.

[Fledermaus]

I hope the GOP is gone in 2016. To hell with them all.

If I’m going to get liberal BS shoved down my throat then might as well get it from the “enemy” rather than “my team”.

And NO.......it isn’t the “lesser of two evils” morons. EVIL IS EVIL PERIOD!

Idiots that argue the “lesser of two evils” are arguing over whether they are willing to take a 3” or 6” stick shoved up their neither region. Cowards.

[Fledermaus]

“But I love him...”

[Fledermaus]

When I get one (it’s been a while, they must got tired of my actions) I put a roll of pennies in the return envelope. They have to pay the postage by weight.

Oh, and of course I write all over it in four letter words and tell them how I wish they would die horrible deaths along with their worthless families and friends.

Yes, I’m an a-hole but then again what are they? Tyrants.

[justa-hairyape]

When the Democrats controlled Congress, the DINOs gave us Obamacare. When the Republicans controlled Congress, the RINOs gave use Obamatrade. We are just choosing which rope they hang us with.

[familyop]

"I think i know where you’re coming from on the distributed architecture. An example is in the RKBA world where there is distributed, open source software out there to make gun receivers."

Yes, exactly, although hardware is also required. I agree very much with the essence of all that you wrote.

"In essence, you can (almost) punch a button and make your own firearm. Or at least the part that is licensed."

With a CNC machine? Please don't misunderstand. I still agree with the essence of what you wrote. We won! That kind of job does require some knowledge and experience, though. Firearms aren't being manufactured for crooks by Mongoloids in group homes. ;-)

Wasn't there some legislation already passed against making firearms with so-called 3D printers? I warned some folks about that. Some people try to scare the most influential constituents on the other side into introducing more legislation against the Second Amendment. What's up with that?

" A lot of my older school cohorts think I’m smoking something when I note that we just essentially won. If you can build your own, all the licensing schemes in the world won’t matter."

Oh, yes. We won! But psychiatrists put some young men on fancy crazy drugs and spit them right back out into society: Joker Boy, the Newtown Martian and Storm Roof, all of them children of divorce/separation and single moms.

Now, the hordes of medical racket folks are pushing politicians again to outlaw everyone with minor neuroses for the rest of their lives while allowing the more equal animal$ to pay to have black marks deleted from their own histories.

An open source economy will solve much of that problem, too (more equal animals on government-derived incomes). "Float like a butterfly and sting like a bee." Their "hands can't hit what" their "eyes can't see."

Besides, they'll all be laid off in the remainder of the default process. See Greece, which is only halfway to where its going (see Argentina). Big government needs real revenues with real value from a large, centralized manufacturing base.

And it will be a lot rougher here for those clinging to the current paradigm of a "service economy" (socialist house of cards). The exclamations about the federal treasury printing wealth with endless free money for state and local government income recipients come from their daydreams. After Germany tried that, formerly well-to-do and respected Germans starved. Their troops ran to our troops and surrendered for food.

The anti-Second-Amendment people aren't afraid of the inner city people on food stamps. They're afraid of what millions of people with government-derived incomes will do, after large numbers of them are laid off.

[RKBA Democrat]

” We are just choosing which rope they hang us with.”

Pretty much. I know that watching the monkeys throw feces at each other is entertaining. But Is it wrong for me to want to render the monkeys irrelevant rather than participate in their games?

[RKBA Democrat]

Yeah, CNC. There is a machine that the same folks that did the printable gun have developed. Its pretty beta, but will mill a receiver. Cost is about $1000 IIRC. Moore’s law kicks in, you’ll be buying them on ebay in a few years. Not just for guns, but say you need a part for your dishwasher. We are getting very close to the point where your local group home will be doing this. Oh and by the way, that sort of renders the Chinese advantage moot. Six weeks plus shipping or six minutes in your workshop

There was some legislation on printable guns, but I don’t think it passed. No matter. The genie is out of the bottle.

As for the economics. I went to a debate between Gordon Liddy and Timothy Leary must’ve been 25 years ago. Tim had a very good question as to what do we do with the people whose jobs are rendered nonexistent due to technology?

Oh and printing more FRN’s is not a winning strategy. Sooner or later the bill comes due.

[RKBA Democrat]

Here is the machine I was referring to.

https://ghostgunner.net/index.html

[justa-hairyape]

Not at all. The organ grinding Angles in England have finally admitted that we might be entering a cooling period due to weakening solar activity. Finally admitting the obvious due to the very bad winters and bad summer in Europe. It appears that the lower UV output levels of the sun actually have a significant affect on Earth’s climates. Gee, ya think. Wait till they see the massive ozone holes that will be opening up. This all goes back to the Ozone Hole scare for me. The monkeys however are claiming that the cooling still won’t be more powerful than Global Warming. These people need to get off our planet. Have had it with their idiocy, fraud, tyranny and duplicity. We need to prepare for reality and they will not be a part of it.

[RKBA Democrat]

And not one thing the damnable politicians do will chamge it.

Ultimately, if we have to deal with colder temps you know what wil happen? The media will squeal, the politicians will posture and tax it, and ordinary folks will figure out a way to make it all work. So why not skip the BS and go directly to “make it all work”?

[xzins]

See #176 Fledermaus. I should have pinged you. Sorry.

[familyop]

That's very good news on the mill. There will be heavier ones, too. Whole machines are being designed (open source), built and tested in early production.

"Tim had a very good question as to what do we do with the people whose jobs are rendered nonexistent due to technology?"

I did machine work for a living during the late 1970s and early 1980s. Monkeys can be taught to be machine operators for a community, but many of the overpaid regulators and other government employees of today? I'm not sure.

;-)

Transportation will continue to become more expensive. The oil for fuel is there, but it will be increasingly expensive to get. Some power plants and trucking businesses are being switched to natural gas, and liquid natural gas is being exported.

East Asia and other areas will continue to see more drivers--probably hundreds of millions of them around the world during the years ahead. High production rates in small shops for communities won't be needed or desired for most operations, although increased automation in small shops will be welcome. Most transportation routes for products will be shorter, and smaller loads will be more common.

Those are natural consequences for long periods of unemployment for many people. Many will become more determined to work for more dependable employers: themselves and others like themselves.

The future probably won't be without all kinds of problems. But there's nowhere else to go, unless the end of days and World to Come are just ahead. And productivity won't be for everyone, but the build-it-yourself means will be there for those who want to produce.

Could a major disruption occur? Yes. Maybe nuclear exchanges or something as destructive? Maybe a terrible epidemic? We already see a likely default, repudiation and government shrinkage process ahead, which would certainly slow a "service economy" to a snail's pace. But even such disruptions can have unforeseen consequences that would lead to more self-sufficiency and freedom for many.

[familyop]

Thanks for the link. Wow! That’s a pretty neat machine. Here’s one that’s more crude, but it’s heavy duty and cheap.

The Multimachine
http://opensourcemachine.org/

[familyop]

"We are getting very close to the point where your local group home will be doing this."

You were right about that after all. ;-)

Try to grasp the consequences of putting even more fear into those most influential constituents in the shadows, though. Here's an example of what really happens to someone snagged by an anti-Second-Amendment law.

The Emerson Case

Nearly all of the Republicans in Congress voted in favor of that law, by the way.