Posted on 06/23/2015 4:38:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Is this bolder than what Haley did or not as bold? Davis may not hold the same cultural currency as a symbol of southern pride that the flag does, but Haley had less to lose in making her move than Bevin does. She’s the term-limited governor of South Carolina; he’s the GOP nominee for governor in Kentucky. If there’s a broader southern backlash coming to all of the criticism of Confederate iconography this past week, he’ll pay for it more than she will.
NEW: @MattBevin, in a statement to me, calls for removing the Jefferson Davis statue in the KY Capitol. #KyGov pic.twitter.com/5Tu39RCHe1
— Theo Keith (@TheoKeith) June 23, 2015
Hard to believe Bevin would have picked this fight without the enormous political cover he got yesterday from Haley, Tim Scott, Lindsey Graham, and a variety of presidential candidates who backed her decision. She singlehandedly made it safe for southern Republicans to go their own way on the flag and related symbols.
And now, the backlash?
Confederate flag sales at Amazon up 2,305% in Patio, Lawn and Garden -> http://t.co/FrDirvWzVR pic.twitter.com/2SYGMw58bz
— Charlie Spiering (@charliespiering) June 23, 2015
That’s going to thicken the plot as retailers come under pressure to dump their own Confederate-themed merchandise. Depending upon how strong the backlash is, there’s potentially a lot of money being left on the table as flags and related products are pulled. Even so, as of this morning, Wal-Mart says it’ll no longer sell items with the Confederate flag on it and Sears announced that it’ll block third-party sales of Confederate-themed products at Sears and K-Mart. “Who cares?” you say. “People who want stuff like that will just go to eBay for it.” Aha:
EBay says it will ban the listing of confederate flags and related items containing the confederate flag image – Reuters
— CNBC Now (@CNBCnow) June 23, 2015
Currently still for sale on eBay as I write this: Nazi memorabilia and tributes to communist degenerates of various stripes. Will Amazon buckle next? Will Craigslist? The stricter the taboo against the Confederate flag, warns Scott Shackford, the more of a fetish it’ll become for holdouts. But maybe that’s the point: The further underground the flag is driven, critics will argue, the more likely it is that only the most determined fans of the Confederacy will seek it out for display. If that perception takes hold, that anyone willing to go to the trouble of obtaining a flag must want it for more than reasons of simple southern pride, it’ll reinforce the point made by the flag’s critics that it’s inseparable from its racist pedigree. Enhancing the taboo against the flag is, to its opponents, worth the risk of a backlash, I think. Especially now that both parties are onboard in opposition to it, pushing it further out of the mainstream.
Anyway. It’s amazing to watch politicians and corporations scramble in the past 24 hours to purge themselves of the flag after decade upon decade of complacency. Dan Foster’s joke about the spastic moralizing of online lefties made me laugh, but it applies just as well to companies like Wal-Mart and eBay. The striking thing isn’t that they’ve had a change of heart when, and only when, it was suddenly politically convenient to do so. The striking thing is how sure they are of their new position after holding the opposite position for ages.
“Things I Didn’t Have An Opinion About 20 Minutes Ago: A History of Internet Progressivism."
— Daniel Foster (@DanFosterType) June 23, 2015
The flag is banned “consistent with our longstanding policy that prohibits items that promote hatred, violence or glorify racial intolerance,” said the spokesman for a company that’s trafficking in Third Reich coins as I write this. The only other political hot topic on which you’ll see an evolution as quick and sharp as that is gay marriage, where it’s acceptable for new converts to the cause to dismiss their opponents as hateful bigots on Tuesday even if they held the traditional position themselves on Monday. Are sudden, dramatic conversions like that becoming more common in politics? If so, I can imagine lots of theories to explain it: Mickey Kaus’s “Feiler Faster” thesis; the left’s growing skill at intimidating corporations with boycott threats; the culture’s growing addiction to “judgment porn”; or, most charitably, the politics of an issue shifting just enough to allow a huge reservoir of silent popular opinion to come spilling out. E.g., maybe eBay always wanted to ban the Confederate flag but was too scared of losing southern business if it did. Now that Haley et al. made the issue bipartisan, they can make their true feelings known. I don’t buy that in the gay-marriage example — how many Americans or American companies were even secretly pro-SSM 15 years ago? — but there may be something to it in the case of the flag, which has been a political headache for members of both parties for years but which was only safe to cure after the outpouring of grief over the massacre in Charleston. How much benefit of the doubt do you want to give eBay?
Update: Just as I was finishing the post, Amazon made its move:
Amazon spokesperson now confirms that the company will pull Confederate flag merchandise.
FINALLY! Someone sees what is really going on right now!
Well, he almost had a political career.
The evil thing is that a joker like this guy looks at the electorate and makes a calculation as to whether this will help or hurt him.
He is either retarded or Kentuckyy has changed a lot since I last rolled through.
I could care less about a flag of the rebellion but if GOP politicos can’t quit dancing every time the Brown Shirt Media threaten them then we desperately need new leadership.
Satan has turned the GOP into a suicide cult lately.
good
They’re going to stop selling the racist flags....as soon as they sell all of their inventory.
I do support them dumping that annoying jughead currently impersonating Colonel Sanders on the KFC commercials. How annoying.
Kentucky wasn’t part of the Confederacy. How do they have a statue of Ol’ Jeff?
In other news, hard-line liberals vow to blow up ancient Confederate monuments in Kentucky, South Carolina, Texas, Tennessee, . . .
Both Lincoln & Davis were born in Kentucky and moved to other states in their childhood.
Is he nuts? Quit pandering, Bevin!
Davis was a native son of Kentucky and an early opponent of concentrating all government power in Washington.
There was a lot more slavery under the US flag than the Confederate flag, let’s ban it too.
In other news, hard-line liberals vow to blow up ancient Confederate monuments in Kentucky, South Carolina, Texas, Tennessee, . . ."
Great insight!
I dunno. Guess they appreciate history
Is the GOP-e really this stupid? Guess what? Ban the flag! Scrub General Lee’s and Jefferson Davis’s names from every building, monument or memorial. You know what difference it will make? NONE! The left called you racists yesterday, and they’ll call you racists tomorrow, and not a single, African American Obama voter is going to switch to the Republican party. Not one!
In the South, you get accustomed to people moving here from up North and then telling about you how they did things back home and how you're not doing things the right way.
I've learned that this is not appreciated and that there are some things you just leave alone, like Dixie history.
But, obviously, Matt Bevin is NOT a natural born Southerner.
He's a Northeastern transplant who moved to Kentucky in 1999.
And now Kentucky is doing things wrong.
The same thought crossed my mind today.....
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