Posted on 06/23/2015 8:23:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
I am just reading this book NOW....I’m at the 96% mark.
Very mediocre, very disappointing frankly. But man, right on topic!
Hitler made the same misjudgement with Stalin.
So far, the US can’t even defeat a ragtag bunch of goat lovers in the Middle East. Neither could the Russians, for that matter. The US is broke, we are filling our country with illegal immigrants and Muslims, and we have stretched our military to the breaking point.
What exactly is Europe doing for us? Let them take care of their own problems.
The time for world domination by one country is past. Smaller and smaller groups are able to wield power and weaponry that only large nation states had previously.
Suggested reading - The Sovereign Individual by Rees-Mogg and Davidson, and The Transformation of War by Martin van Creveld.
If the US doesn’t take care of the problems we have in our own country, we won’t be able to do anything abroad.
LOL, no one is making such a mistake, Russia doesn’t have the muscle to invade our NATO nations and he knows it.
Good lord, look at your home page.
I hope that no one is paying attention to the military wisdom of a self described, libertarian grandmother.
It was the first Clancy I ever read. I was glued to it to the end.
I’m listening to some old Star Trek TOS books. THOSE are written at a 9th grade level.
Exactly,,, all NATO would need to do is kick in the door and the whole rotten structure would collapse.
The weakness in Red Storm rising is this: there is no visit to the White House to see what the President is saying...no mention of what the media is saying...no mention of the congressional wheeling and dealing...no mention of what the CIA is doing - and they damned sure would have been very involved.
I think those are weaknesses. He also didn’t predict very well how the next wars would be fought, though I give him a pass on that somewhat since this was written in 86. I think Red October had a much better storyline.
But I’m gonna finish it.
I don’t think you need worry about that. My own kids don’t even listen to me. ;-)
BTW, I am more conservative than libertarian.
Be that as it may, the truth is, the US is in a bad way and had better solve its problems at home. As long as we have open borders and are bringing thousands of Muslims into the US, we are inviting our own doom.
Europe is the least of our worries.
“Doesn’t anyone remember how defense of Europe works?”
Considering how Russia just waltzed into Ukraine and took what it wanted, looks like American leadership doesn’t remember how defense of Europe works.
I expect both Russia and China will make massive land grabs within a few months, betting that the Obama has no interest in defending anyone. They’ll make the move while the disinterested lame duck is in office, and start soon enough that they’ll have it all wrapped up, under control, and defenses firmly in place before 20 January 2017.
Reagan saw the nation that you are supporting, as the greatest threat to America and the world.
For a woman to run around saying that all this man stuff is just unimportant and that we can just ignore the evil empire and concentrate on domestic issues, even as they are conducting an invasion right up to our NATO border, doesn’t work in the real world.
We cannot allow the return to the Cold War, and the possible loss of the United States.
Ukraine isn't a NATO nation, and we still conduct military exercises in Ukraine, and if you notice, the invasion of Ukraine is destroying Putin, and is rebuilding, uniting, and reinvigorating NATO, and may even enlarge NATO, as Sweden and Finland start looking at joining.
“Putin doesn’t have a military capable of sustained, large invasions anymore.”
Putin doesn’t need a military capable of sustained large invasions. He just needs a military capable of walking in and announcing “you’re ours” and quietly shooting anyone who disagrees, a la Ukraine.
Frequently redrawn borders are the historical norm in Europe. Leadership - current US CiC especially - shows no interest in enforcing current borders by force.
Hey, I loved Reagan, but this is not 1980. Our biggest threat is not from Russia. We are being destroyed from within. The Muslims and illegal immigration are going to destroy this country. That is what we need to fight. Europe wouldn’t pee on us if we were on fire.
That’s right Pat, let’s just bend the knee to Tsar Putin.
Like Ukraine?
We and other NATO nations are still doing military exercises in Ukraine.
Putin’s military, largely made up of poorly trained, poorly equipped, 1 year draftees, with little capability to move large numbers of troops and supplies, especially if Western nations are destroying them on the roads, are seemingly having troubles with Ukraine, they are not capable of conducting large invasions against the nations of Europe and NATO.
Selfie Soldiers: Russia Checks in to Ukraine
http://youtu.be/2zssIFN2mso
(Tracking Russian soldiers movement into Ukraine via their pictures posted to social media.)
IMO, the loss of the United States will be entirely driven from within.
“We and other NATO nations are still doing military exercises in Ukraine.”
And yet, despite promises to the contrary, we are doing absolutely nothing about a large fraction of Ukraine being annexed by Russia.
That would be like losing the southwestern USA to Mexico, doing nothing about it, and saying “we still have military bases & exercises in the rest of the country.” (Example chosen for very relevant reasons. Methinks Travis McGee here elaborated on that subject at length.)
Ukraine isn’t a NATO nation, and we are doing a lot.
Do you want NATO to join Ukraine in war?
You want us to engage in combat in Ukraine? Why would we do that, especially since Putin is self destructing, and helping our conservative defense goals?
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