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How climate-change doubters lost a papal fight
Washington Post ^ | June 20, 2015 | By Anthony Faiola and Chris Mooney

Posted on 06/20/2015 6:13:31 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis was about to take a major step backing the science behind ­human-driven global warming, and Philippe de Larminat was determined to change his mind.

A French doubter who authored a book arguing that solar activity — not greenhouse gases — was driving global warming, de Larminat sought a spot at a climate summit in April sponsored by the Vatican’s Pontifical Academy of Sciences. Nobel laureates would be there. So would U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, U.S. economist Jeffrey Sachs and others calling for dramatic steps to curb carbon emissions.

fter securing a high-level meeting at the Vatican, he was told that, space permitting, he could join. He bought a plane ticket from Paris to Rome. But five days before the April 28 summit, de Larminat said, he received an e-mail saying there was no space left. It came after other scientists — as well as the powerful Vatican bureaucrat in charge of the academy — insisted he had no business being there.

“They did not want to hear an off note,” de Larminat said.

It marked the latest blow for those seeking to stop the reform-minded train that has become Francis’s papacy. It is one that has reinvigorated liberal Catholics even as it has sowed the seeds of resentment and dissent inside and outside the Vatican’s ancient walls. . .

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To: Arthur McGowan

How did he manage to push past the screen, is an even bigger question. Apparently Benedict and the college of cardinals was for this “bully.”


61 posted on 06/20/2015 7:30:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Morpheus2009

I dig your story about a church that refused to credit God with the starkly supernatural.

That is a contradiction in terms all right.


62 posted on 06/20/2015 7:32:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Bravo.


63 posted on 06/20/2015 7:32:54 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: a fool in paradise

Whenever the media give the Pope glowing reviews.......you know you have a big problem.


64 posted on 06/20/2015 7:36:06 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I have no doubt.

I’m certain there is no man-made global warming.

Those clowns don’t even have the integrity to be shamed by having to change the name to Climate change after 2 decades of evidence proved there is no warming.


65 posted on 06/20/2015 7:36:48 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; Brad from Tennessee

Agreed.

What keeps science honest?

Well, it sure looks like that answer cannot itself be “science.” That can dig itself into a hole of mutual self delusion right quick. We’re seeing it happen right now, if the dubiousness of Darwinism weren’t enough to illustrate the problem.

When God told mankind to subdue the earth, that was the divine mandate for science and technology. Understanding it (correctly) was to be key to taming its wildness. A ludicrously wrong understanding will get humanity going on a wild goose chase that gets the devil laughing but grieves the Lord.


66 posted on 06/20/2015 7:36:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Mamzelle

I didn’t like him when he walked out on the balcony with a blank look on his face. Like a great, inert lump, with his arms hanging limp at his side. Not a flicker of joy.

When he KNELT DOWN for a “blessing” from the crowd—Gag me with a spoon! Such a show of phony “humility”—Look at MEEE! I’m Pope! But I’m HUMBLE!!!! Look at MEEEE!—was stomach-turning.

His subsequent behavior—exiling Burke, CRUSHING the FFI like a BUG, enforcing a complete bubble around himself—shows what a completely phony pose all his “humility” is.


67 posted on 06/20/2015 7:37:48 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: ansel12
that's not exactly the whole story. lots of US Catholics are still in the "honeymoon" period for this new pope and lots of uncritical Catholic support is no doubt coming from latin Catholics, which is to be expected since they consider him one of their own. i am personally concerned about what he's up to, but trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. he does appear to be insulated from hearing any opposing viewpoints. that's a problem.


68 posted on 06/20/2015 7:38:40 PM PDT by TangibleDisgust (The Parmesan doesn't go like that.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

The lack of apparent joy... a problem. Joy comes from the Lord. The Lord can forgive many many fumbles but there is not much He can do about one who just turns his back on Him.


69 posted on 06/20/2015 7:40:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I don’t think we know who Benedict might have favored. You aren’t thinking he was in the Conclave, are you? (I always thought he should have become Cardinal Ratzinger again, although maybe he didn’t make that choice precisely to avoid being in the Conclave!)

I have read that Cardinal Burke stood up and argued against the election of Bergoglio—which is, of course, why Bergoglio took immediate revenge on him.

Bergoglio’s mind closed many decades ago. He enforces a bubble around himself. His “humility” is all a pose. He is spiteful, angry, and vicious. With this bitter, dishonst encyclical, he has blown his cover with many, many people.


70 posted on 06/20/2015 7:44:46 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: HiTech RedNeck
What is the sin here? The sin of doing evil things to the globe?

That's what I'd like the men on the other side of the confessional screen to answer. Which bit of scripture supports this, to the point of doling out penance? Surely they must've covered this back when they were seminarians. I'm certain that they can explain and somehow justify all those hydrocarbon-spewing candles, too.

Mockery is a powerful weapon. If enough priests hear things like this, it'll make it to the ears of their bishops and archbishops. Ultimately, Rome will either find a way to double-down, or this will be quietly walked back.

71 posted on 06/20/2015 7:46:24 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Maybe Benedict did take a hands off approach when he resigned; I would have thought that he’d have made some say about his successor.

Maybe he’s there now thinking “Good grief, what was just wrought through my quitting this early in the game?”

It would seem to me that a Christian attitude wouldn’t want to name a bully for a top position like that.

Jesus Christ will continue to bless and save genuine believers in Him; He promised it. But there’s no guarantee that any earthly official, or group of them, is going to be a believer or believers..


72 posted on 06/20/2015 7:51:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

By chosing climate change, the Pope chose abortion stealthily. it is all the same Hitler lebensraum language


73 posted on 06/20/2015 7:52:00 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: Charles Martel

The scripture which suggests man has a right and duty to use the globe for the benefit of humanity is the one that tells man to subdue the earth. It’s wild... it isn’t meant to be kept a museum of wildness any more than it is meant to be despoiled.


74 posted on 06/20/2015 7:53:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: TangibleDisgust

Sure it’s the whole story, it is polling from a week or two ago.

The Pope holds the typical Catholic politics, and he has the high approval to prove it.

Only 4% of American Catholics disapprove of him.


75 posted on 06/20/2015 7:54:27 PM PDT by ansel12 (Trump- I identify as Democrat-- favorite president?-Clinton-- your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Bishop Schorri (sp?) of the “Episcopalians” who thinks nothing is a sin, does thing that denial of global warming is a sin.


76 posted on 06/20/2015 7:54:44 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

Ah, the sin for people who do not believe in sin


77 posted on 06/20/2015 7:55:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: lavaroise

At the least he’s fighting against the “fill the earth” philosophy. Do it some other way than abortion, you still cork what God never asked to be corked.


78 posted on 06/20/2015 7:56:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I seem to recall the last time the Latin church took an official position on a scientific matter, it was backing Aristotelian celestial mechanics just as that theory was unraveling.

One might have thought the lesson would have been learned.


79 posted on 06/20/2015 8:09:59 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>>And this warmism stuff just doesn’t sound like the Lord.

If you believe in liberation theology, i.e. that God is created in Man’s image, then why not?


80 posted on 06/20/2015 8:25:03 PM PDT by oblomov
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