Posted on 06/18/2015 4:02:50 PM PDT by JOHN W K
CLICK HERE for the list of House Republicans who spat upon our Constitution today and ignored its expressed requirement for a two thirds approval vote for any deals cooked up by our president with foreign powers. In effect, these Republicans have unconstitutionally lowered the two thirds requirement to a simple majority to approve deals consummated by our president with foreign powers and engaged in the same despotic action the President has engaged in when signing Executive Orders that violate statutory law and/or our Constitution’s written provisions.
These Republican turncoat and lying scoundrels tell us that the Pacific Rim deal is not a treaty and therefore they are not required to observe the two thirds approval required by our Constitution for a treaty. But their lie is exposed when recalling the words of our founders with regard to the meaning of a treaty as they used and understood the word. So, what is meant by a “treaty” as expressed by our Founders?
In Federalist No. 64 Jay defines a treaty as a “bargain” . He writes:
”These gentlemen would do well to reflect that a treaty is only another name for a bargain, and that it would be impossible to find a nation who would make any bargain with us, which should be binding on them ABSOLUTELY, but on us only so long and so far as we may think proper to be bound by it.”
And in Federalist No. 75 Hamilton tells us with reference to a treaty, Its objects are CONTRACTS with foreign nations, which have the force of law…”
Finally, In Federalist No. 22 Hamilton talks about “a treaty of commerce” as follows:
”A nation, with which we might have a treaty of commerce, could with much greater facility prevent our forming a connection with her competitor in trade, though such a connection should be ever so beneficial to ourselves.”
The irrefutable fact is, the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) Free Trade Agreement falls within the meaning of a treaty as the word was used and understood by our founding fathers, and as such, requires a two thirds vote to become an enforceable contract, or bargain with the nations involved.
Our founding fathers, who lived under a despotic King, were fearful of creating an omnipotent president when framing our Constitution, and they carefully limited his powers significantly by a number of provisions in our Constitution, one being the two thirds vote requirement as mentioned above for treaties. And to give an example of how much our founders feared an omnipotent president, they even refused giving the President Line-Item Veto Power! And with respect to the reasons for this denial of power to the president, Benjamin Franklin, on June 4th of the Constitutional Convention reminds the delegates how they suffered under that power. He says:
'”The negative of the governor was constantly made use of to extort money. No good law whatever could be passed without a private bargain with him. An increase of salary or some donation, was always made a condition; till at last, it became the regular practice to have orders in his favor on the treasury presented along with the bills to be signed, so that he might actually receive the former before he should sign the latter. When the Indians were scalping the Western people, and notice of it arrived, the concurrence of the governor in the means of self-defense could not be got, until it was agreed that the people were to fight for the security of his property, whilst he was to have no share of the burdens of taxation.''
So, here we are today, and instead of our Republican members in the House being loyal to their oath of office, they reject a constitutional provision designed to insure there is a substantial support for any deals made by our president with foreign powers before they can become enforceable law. Not only have these 190 Republicans violated their oath of office, but they have engaged in a despotic act of tyranny!
We have been amply warned in THE OLD GUARD, A MONTHLY JOURNAL DEVOTED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF 1776 AND 1787, that:
"When a free people submit to oppressive acts, passed in violation of their constitution, for a single day, they have thrown down the palladium of their liberty. Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud. It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism __ the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted is the beginning of the end of the nation’s ruin."
BTW, here is the list of Senate Republicans who are acting in concert with the above mentioned Republican House members who are working to circumvent our written constitution and its documented legislative intent:
Alexander, Tenn.; Ayotte, N.H.; Barrasso, Wyo.; Blunt, Mo.; Boozman, Ark.; Burr, N.C.; Capito, W.V.; Cassidy, La.; Coats, Ind.; Cochran, Miss.; Corker, Tenn.; Cornyn, Texas; Cotton, Ark.; Crapo, Idaho; Cruz, Texas; Daines, Mont.; Ernst, Iowa; Fischer, Neb.; Flake, Ariz.; Gardner, Colo.; Graham, S.C.; Grassley, Iowa; Hatch, Utah; Heller, Nev.; Hoeven, N.D.; Inhofe, Okla.; Isakson, Ga.; Johnson, Wis.; Kirk, Ill.; Lankford, Okla.; McCain, Ariz.; McConnell, Ky.; Moran, Kan.; Murkowski, Alaska; Perdue, Ga.; Portman, Ohio; Risch, Idaho; Roberts, Kan.; Rounds, S.D.; Rubio, Fla.; Sasse, Neb.; Scott, S.C.; Sullivan, Alaska; Thune, S.D.; Tillis, N.C.; Toomey, Pa.; Vitter, La.; Wicker, Miss.
JWK
" I believe that there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." ___ Madison Elliot`s Debates, vol. III, page 87
What about the 6 GOP gutless reps who were too coward to vote.
They are more gutless than the ones who voted yes.
The only Constitutionally enumerated power that a Pres has with other countries concerning ‘agreement’s is a Treaty.
Every single time they rob, loot and screw Americans while kicking America down a few more notches, that's exactly what we're told...
I've had enough.
Article 1 section 8 says Congress is empowered to regulate national and international trade. Congress carries this out through its normal legislative processes, not the special process for treaties. Congress first started these “fast track” trade agreements back in the 1970s but I think the precedent for handling trade agreements through the normal processes goes back quite a bit further than that.
It wasn’t a 2/3 requirement, because it’s not a treaty. It was a 60 vote requirement to close debate, and the ability to add amendments.
Funny you sent that to yourself.............
Everyone needs to just calm the heck down about all this. You are being spun by Trumps minions.
If TPP is no biggie why is it being kept Top Secret? Bush made public his trade agreements before asking for a TPA.
So the recent precedent is to release the text before a TPA. That’s not happening here. Why is that? That’s certainly a condition Congress could have requested before a vote on TPA and they are not. Why is that?
I once thought Paul Ryan would make a great President.
So did I. And I also once thought the same about Rubio and Cruz. But it’s clear now that none of them have any interest in defending Main Street from corportist and marxist assaults. Conservatives will never win this war if our generals go AWOL on the battlefield.
“”BILL TITLE: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow Federal law enforcement officers, firefighters, and air traffic controllers to make penalty-free withdrawals from governmental plans after age 50, and for other purposes””
Just when we think we might have had a little clarification on this whole mess, you link us to what? An amendment to the Internal Revenue Code - penalty free withdrawals from government pension plans?
Everyone needs to just calm the heck down about all this. You are being spun by Trumps minions.
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At last, a little sanity. But note that this isn’t just Trump. The RandBots are also very active. Their goal: Kill Cruz Candidacy.
It is a treaty, obamacare is not about health care, and Jenner is still a man.
“There must be big forces at work here causing these conservatives to go right along with a treaty that will be detrimental to United State sovereignty. “
Yes, the US Chamber of Commerce (er Communists).
“I once thought Paul Ryan would make a great President.
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Ditto for Ted Cruz. He’s dead to me now.
Redefine anything like the left is doing and everything is anything.
The Supreme Court has made a lot of unconstitutional rulings but that doesn’t make the rulings correct.
It’s all choreographed and manipulated. They know who’s voting on what.
These are professional government bureaucrats.
Insider back door deals. The only reason a few vote against or for something is they know damn well what the vote numbers are going to be. This way ya can’t blame the entire party....They say it was only a few bad apples...Oh shucks, we came so close to winning....You know, it was the RINO’s and GOPe...and on and on. Day in day out.
The Republicans are so corrupt, they gave themselves different names for crips sakes.
Do the corrupt Democrats do this too?
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