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To: aMorePerfectUnion
in an attempt (it would seem) to make them sound like the church is above all. This is false, according to the context.

Seems pretty clear to me 8-)

You might want to also look into "binding and loosing," which refers to indisputable ecclesial authority. (Matthew 16:19, 18:18)

I don't know how the Bible could be any more explicit.

And Protestants protesting proof-texting is ironic, since Catholics are also supposed to abandon Church Authority and Sacred Tradition (in contradiction to Scripture, for an extra layer of irony).

And we still haven't talked about the key of the Davidic kingdom.

500 posted on 06/22/2015 8:09:01 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

” You might want to also look into “binding and loosing,” which refers to indisputable ecclesial authority. (Matthew 16:19, 18:18)

None of which proves anything - even apart from you posting penchant of distorting the meaning of passages.

“I don’t know how the Bible could be any more explicit.”

I’ve come to understand your pre-belief is the issue. It allows only what has been taught... the definition of eisogesis.

“And Protestants protesting proof-texting is ironic, since Catholics are also supposed to abandon Church Authority and Sacred Tradition (in contradiction to Scripture, for an extra layer of irony).

I am not opposed to proof-texting, but you have to start with PROOF. To take a passage out of context because you find the words you like is very mormonic. They do it all the time. They are also wrong.

“And we still haven’t talked about the key of the Davidic kingdom. “

No problem there either. Again, the Catholic has been taught what things “mean” and are truth blind to anything that might break into the pre-belief.

This does not surprise me. I at one time was like you, alter boy, steeped in Rome’s teaching. Until I began to study the Bible myself and on my knees. Then the dawn came. Others (and maybe you) are content to outsource their “study” to Rome and then believe whatever she says - despite her long history of paganism.

Unfortunately, that will only get you to third base and never to Home - eternal life.


501 posted on 06/22/2015 8:44:29 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
You might want to also look into "binding and loosing,"

Why do so many of you Catholics wish that Francis would BIND his tongue?

511 posted on 06/22/2015 11:57:11 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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